Poll: Did you get one of the Covid vaccines?

[Aero Denezol]

Got both shots and still alive. Still have my guns and my money.

If I didn't die in a car in high school or from all the partying I did in my 20s, I knew the shot wasn't gonna kill me.

Get the shot, let's all start making money again.

 

[beefwithcheese]

I really wouldn't be surprised if it was close. I work near a vaccination site, and someone gets hauled off in an ambulance 2-3 times a week. Talk to someone that works there, and it's pretty common.

Overall, given the sheer volume of doses given, it still seems fairly rare.

The only reason I brought up that anyone can report to VAERS, is because there are people that make false claims all day long. It is not the best source of data. People like to manipulate things.

 

[MTpockets]

 

[bolus]

The chart shows deaths from all other vaccines combined over the last 30 years at 5,000.

In the last 18 months it 6,000 deaths from the jab.

A little reflection on the numbers and any other vaccine they would have stopped jabbing long ago because too many are dead.

As a number game 6,000 won the lottery and their families will never see them again.

We still don't know the long term effects.

That's some weird data. Since that website is build by some unnamed person without any references, do you have supportive peer reviewed published data on those death rates? Why is he using data from "whistleblower reports" to "estimate" death rates? He does not even give a methods section of how he is coming to these results. If you dont tell people how to verify and reproduce your results you dont bring any credibility.

Since VAERS can be reported by non-medical professional, how is he confirming the deaths are directly related to the vaccine? I have the VAERS data in front of me. There isnt a data point for death caused by vaccine as confirmed by medical professional. Even if he is scrubbing all the statement fields there is no confirmation area for death caused by the vaccine.

Then this website seems to contradict peer viewed data

"Anaphylaxis following vaccination has been reported at an approximate rate of 5 events per one million doses [85]. Following the first 10 million doses of BNT162b2 administered in the United States, 50 episodes were reported to the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); this reflects a lower risk than had initially been estimated [119,120]. Of the anaphylaxis cases, 80 percent occurred in individuals with a history of allergic reactions and 90 percent occurred within 30 minutes. Other reported allergic reactions included pruritus, rash, scratchy sensations in the throat, and mild respiratory symptoms [119]. "

Now considering every vaccine administration site is watching patients with reported adverse events for at least 30 minutes and have anaphylaxis treatment on hand, my bet is most of those patients who had the worst reaction survived. We've given about 8000 vaccines and not used even one of our emergency kits.

(I can provide the citations above if requested)

 

[beefwithcheese]

Looks a little methy to me.

 

[Longwalkhome]

In the United States alone 175million+ are fully vaccinated against Covid 19. 6000 deaths is, 0.000034285714286%. That is far less than the percentage who have died from Covid 19. The benefits outweigh the risk. Now, that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be able to choose if they want to take it or not.

I guess it's all good as long as you are not one of the 6,000 and since it was done under emergency rules there is nothing the families can settle for after being killed by the jab.

Even today the jabs approved by the FDA haven't been distributed and they are using pre approved emergency jabs that you have no recourse if it harms you or your family.

Funny how we become just a number or statistics to the doctors and scientists and it was scientists that created covid in a CCP biological warfare lab useing gain of function. Personally I believe crimes against humanity have been committed but as long as they can keep this about numbers the real cost in human life and suffering can be looked over.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Time for a little humorous interlude...

I went to the store to get some Ivermectin for my horse and all I could find on the shelves were covid vaccines.

Horses drink water so democrats have outlawed water.
Brilliant.

 

[Longwalkhome]

The only reason I brought up that anyone can report to VAERS, is because there are people that make false claims all day long. It is not the best source of data. People like to manipulate things.

Yes sir, there are big liars on both sides of the argument and it's shameful we can't get truth from those agencies that report . It really is about trust and while you may not believe the Vaers reports at least it is the other side of the argument that can be challenged.

Every post somebody says that ain't true or he is a liar instead of asking questions. It's the way of the net to shut down opposing views rather than discuss them.

Basically the net is full of lies, trolls, bots and agenda driven zealots with few people interested in discussions over winning a net battle.

When all is said and done it will be wear 3 mask and two pills a day along with your weekly booster and folks will do it without question.

 

[Hueco]

I guess it's all good as long as you are not one of the 6,000 and since it was done under emergency rules there is nothing the families can settle for after being killed by the jab.

According to the cdc, 1 person dies every 36 seconds from cardiovascular disease.

I've seen many doubt the overall coronavirus death counts, stating that the government was taking any death that occurred while someone was positive with covid and adding it to the total, even if such a death were really due to heart disease, cancer, etc.

Would the same, then, not be true of deaths due to the vaccine?

 

[beefwithcheese]

6000 deaths vs. 600,000+ deaths. Which is worse?

 

[Longwalkhome]

6000 deaths vs. 600,000+ deaths. Which is worse?

6,000 needless deaths, those folks had treatments available if they came down with covid but politics avoids treatments because it interferes with the agenda. How many have to die before its too many.

We went to war for 21 years over fewer than 6,000 deaths yet now we kill Americans and justify it as just a casualty.

 

[beefwithcheese]

6,000 needless deaths, those folks had treatments available if they came down with covid but politics avoids treatments because it interferes with the agenda. How many have to die before its too many.

We went to war for 21 years over fewer than 6,000 deaths yet now we kill Americans and justify it as just a casualty.

Im not fully understanding what you're arguing here. 6000 needless deaths? Do you not understand risk to reward? The Corona virus has killed 100x more people than the vaccine has according to your numbers.

and then you bring up Afghanistan, which has nothing to do with anything I've said.

 

[beefwithcheese]

@Longwalkhome i want to be clear that I'm not attacking you, I'm just pointing things out. I would wager that we agree on more things than we disagree about.

 

[Longwalkhome]

 

[Longwalkhome]

Im not fully understanding what you're arguing here. 6000 needless deaths? Do you not understand risk to reward? The Corona virus has killed 100x more people than the vaccine has according to your numbers.

and then you bring up Afghanistan, which has nothing to do with anything I've said.

We were attacked by the CCP and 600,000 Americans killed with biological warfare. The government response was to kill 6,000 more Americans with the jab. Who takes the risk and who gets the reward.

My point about 6,000 deaths from the jab was to illustrate that fewer people died and less damage done to America yet we went to war for 21 years over 911.

Questions folks should ask is why no response to the CCP? Is it because we helped develop covid?

 

[bolus]

Yes sir, there are big liars on both sides of the argument and it's shameful we can't get truth from those agencies that report . It really is about trust and while you may not believe the Vaers reports at least it is the other side of the argument that can be challenged.

Every post somebody says that ain't true or he is a liar instead of asking questions. It's the way of the net to shut down opposing views rather than discuss them.

Basically the net is full of lies, trolls, bots and agenda driven zealots with few people interested in discussions over winning a net battle.

When all is said and done it will be wear 3 mask and two pills a day along with your weekly booster and folks will do it without question.

The best part of science and reading research articles is there is a universal standard for how studies should be interpreted and done. There is universally proven math for how to interpret the studies so if someone says "I used this math equation to determine the muzzle velocity of this round of ammunition in this rifle" you would be able to use the same math equation to test the persons data and even perform your only experiments to make your own conclusions. math does not lie.

We do this because for the exact reasons you list, humans have bias. We have a TON of bias. so we need to study things in a way to remove as much bias as possible to get to the truth.

If one person makes a claim, like "the vaccine killed 6000 people" then they should show the data and the methodology they used to make that claim so that others can look at it and make the same or different conclusions.

So you can literally ignore all the media, all the government, all the internet statements, everything from individual doctors and look at the studies themselves. And if you see one study, you want to see another, and another and another to see if these independent people come to the same conclusion. The more people that come to the same conclusion the stronger the proof of something.

So if would like I can give you several hundred citations of studies on the vaccines and like me, you can read them all, learn about how they are done and if they were done correctly. yeah, some might have mistakes or bias, but that is why you read many many of them.

 

[beefwithcheese]

We were attacked by the CCP and 600,000 Americans killed with biological warfare. The government response was to kill 6,000 more Americans with the jab. Who takes the risk and who gets the reward.

My point about 6,000 deaths from the jab was to illustrate that fewer people died and less damage done to America yet we went to war for 21 years over 911.

Questions folks should ask is why no response to the CCP? Is it because we helped develop covid?

Why are you so certain that China unleashed it on purpose?

 

[slimmer13]

We were attacked by the CCP and 600,000 Americans killed with biological warfare. The government response was to kill 6,000 more Americans with the jab. Who takes the risk and who gets the reward.

My point about 6,000 deaths from the jab was to illustrate that fewer people died and less damage done to America yet we went to war for 21 years over 911.

Questions folks should ask is why no response to the CCP? Is it because we helped develop covid?

I doubt China intentionally unleashed Covid upon themselves in order to hurt us. It seems to me like the lab leak hypothesis is the most likely.

And it's hard to hold China accountable when Fauci was underhandedly funding GOF research.

 

[made in china]

Get the shot, let's all start making money again.

This is one of the pro-vax sentiments that bugs me the most.

Get the shot, and start making money again? As in things will go back to normal? Where did you hear this? What metrics were you told that you can get back to "making money again"??

All I've heard is take more jabs, wear more masks and start locking things down again.

 

[made in china]

I doubt China intentionally unleashed Covid upon themselves in order to hurt us. It seems to me like the lab leak hypothesis is the most likely.

Don't under estimate the depravity of the CCP.

Right now, in China, the CCP has used this pandemic to frame new socialist changes, such as shutting down Western companies, canceling many celebrities, embarking on wealth redistribution programs, etc. Cold War 2 is coming, and the COVID was the first volley.