Charges against Alec Baldwin could be refiled as forensic report shows trigger on gun used in ‘Rust’ shooting had to be pulled

[Jade Falcon]

I saw a clip of the opening remarks of her trial, and that prosecutor knows as much about guns as I do about doctoral-level Calculus. It was extremely painful to watch.

 

[Certaindeaf]

If I'm reading the room right it appears that everyone is saving up to gift a mini-gun to AB when he's acquitted. Brrrr! Lulz

 

[Spitpatch]

Still up to the armorer to keep track of the guns and inspect them before each use.

Another measurable factor.

 

[Spitpatch]

I saw a clip of the opening remarks of her trial, and that prosecutor knows as much about guns as I do about doctoral-level Calculus. It was extremely painful to watch.

For future reference, all questions requiring doctoral-level Calculus shall be forwarded to @Jade Falcon. This website cannot be matched for resources in its Membership.

 

[Provincial]

Still up to the armorer to keep track of the guns and inspect them before each use.

Yes. Even her supervisor complained about how much time she spent with the guns.

 

[orygun]

Her only job was to be responsible for the firearms on the set.

And from what I read she was "trumped" by the director and Baldwin in different ways. First, she didn't have her hands on the gun before it went to Baldwin. Second, Baldwin didn't check anything for himself.
That doesn't answer every question about this shooting, but to lay the blame solely on her shoulders is absolutely wrong.
Baldwin was the one that pulled the trigger and lied about it. Baldwin aimed the gun at a person, which he shouldn't have.
The director handed him a gun and claimed it was cold, but we all know differently.

 

[lucusloc]

And this last page of discussion is exactly why I was worried that trying Baldwin in his capacity as an actor (withe zero responsibility or accountability) would get him off. He needed (needs) to be tried in his capacity as a responsible managing party, a producer, who was willfully and knowingly negligent in those duties. Try him that way and the function of the gun is irrelevant; he ran a set in such a way that it lead to someone dying by preventable and forewarned means, case closed. The prosecution seems to be as fixated on "the 4 rules" and "the function of the firearm" as some in this forum are, and Baldwin will likely walk because of it.

 

[Flopsweat]

And from what I read she was "trumped" by the director and Baldwin in different ways. First, she didn't have her hands on the gun before it went to Baldwin. Second, Baldwin didn't check anything for himself.
That doesn't answer every question about this shooting, but to lay the blame solely on her shoulders is absolutely wrong.
Baldwin was the one that pulled the trigger and lied about it. Baldwin aimed the gun at a person, which he shouldn't have.
The director handed him a gun and claimed it was cold, but we all know differently.

I don't think anyone is trying to blame her solely. I know I'm not. I think they're both guilty as hell.

 

[Spitpatch]

She's responsible.

He's guilty.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Baldwin used gun as a printing stick and rushed armored to reload quickly after firing blanks

Alec Baldwin used gun as ‘a pointing stick’ in ‘Rust’ set footage shown at Hannah Gutierrez-Reed trial, veteran armorer says

“One more, one more, one more!” Baldwin shouted. “Right away, right away! Let’s reload. Here we go, c’mon!”

nypost.com

 

[wired]

Baldwin used gun as a printing stick and rushed armored to reload quickly after firing blanks

Alec Baldwin used gun as ‘a pointing stick’ in ‘Rust’ set footage shown at Hannah Gutierrez-Reed trial, veteran armorer says

“One more, one more, one more!” Baldwin shouted. “Right away, right away! Let’s reload. Here we go, c’mon!”

nypost.com

So she put the live rounds in the gun instead of blanks?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

So she put the live rounds in the gun instead of blanks?

Maybe she lacks proper Fanny pack organization. Whole things was a giant clusterfudge. Treating guns as toys and no respect for them or what they can do, from top of the food chain (Baldwin) through the middle (assistant director), to the bottom (armorer and whoever was shooting them for target practice then putting them back in the mix).

 

[64MercurysRule]

Then there was the cocaine & Mary Jane on the set to complicate things further ......ssshhhhhh .

 

[wired]

Then there was the cocaine & Mary Jane on the set to complicate things further ......ssshhhhhh .

Cocaine and marijuana on a movie set? You dont say.

 

[Spitpatch]

Cocaine and marijuana on a movie set? You dont say.

...and by their very nature of being illegal magically somehow acquire greater influence (or here at least: greater attention) on the situation than the legal alcohol.

 

[wired]

...and by their very nature of being illegal magically somehow acquire greater influence (or here at least: greater attention) on the situation than the legal alcohol.

I doubt there has bever been a movie made that didn't have cocaine and marijuana on the set.

 

[Spitpatch]

I doubt there has bever been a movie made that didn't have cocaine and marijuana on the set.

I'd grant you that. I KNOW there has never been a movie made without alcohol on the set. Somehow illegal intoxicants acquire greater potency and danger (and greater fanfare when things go south), by a process unknown to us and absorbed through legislation. Alcohol enjoys less attention and less responsibility by being legal. It often goes unmentioned (as it did here for a bit). All while statistics graphically show its clear and present level of danger and damage (even when compared to that of the illegal substances).

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Coked out armorer had live rounds everywhere. In several actors bandoliers, in the gun, in the box of dummy rounds. Handed off bag of coke before cops interviewed her.

‘Rust’ armorer posed with live rounds in box of blanks on set, jurors hear as trial opens

A New Mexico jury was shown damning evidence at the start of the trial against “Rust” movie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed — including a photo of her pictured with a live round on set.

nypost.com

Hiring a drugged out, inexperienced, failed porn actor of low intelligence for a job requiring professionalism and attention to detail. How could it possibly go wrong?

 

[wired]

Coked out armorer had live rounds everywhere. In several actors bandoliers, in the gun, in the box of dummy rounds. Handed off bag of coke before cops interviewed her.

‘Rust’ armorer posed with live rounds in box of blanks on set, jurors hear as trial opens

A New Mexico jury was shown damning evidence at the start of the trial against “Rust” movie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed — including a photo of her pictured with a live round on set.

nypost.com

Hiring a drugged out, inexperienced, failed porn actor of low intelligence for a job requiring professionalism and attention to detail. How could it possibly go wrong?

Any links to any of her films?

 

[Flopsweat]

Coked out armorer had live rounds everywhere. In several actors bandoliers, in the gun, in the box of dummy rounds. Handed off bag of coke before cops interviewed her.

‘Rust’ armorer posed with live rounds in box of blanks on set, jurors hear as trial opens

A New Mexico jury was shown damning evidence at the start of the trial against “Rust” movie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed — including a photo of her pictured with a live round on set.

nypost.com

Hiring a drugged out, inexperienced, failed porn actor of low intelligence for a job requiring professionalism and attention to detail. How could it possibly go wrong?

I'm not sure this is significant, but several of the loaded rounds in the pictures have silver primers in them and mismatched and tarnished cases. That would suggest rather strongly that they are reloads.