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Wolves will learn what fences to NOT cross.... at least the smart ones will.
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That is the problem. Would you like to pay $30.00LB for hamburger?.
I like wolves. I hope they spread and proliferate. I'd be especially appreciative if they'd take my ex-wife's freaking cat. And my boss's dog. And my boss. They were here before my ex-wife's cat, my boss's dog, or my boss. Bummer if you ranch on their land....
I say let them come. People need to realize the woods aint Disneyland. Go into the woods, get ate its sure not the wolfs fault. Same goes for the Ocean. go have a swim, get ate oh well you made the choice and paid the consequences. You can not fault a predator for being a predator. Maybe it will force people into preparing better when they go camping.
You do realize that many other states already have wolves and the issues that come with them that have much bigger ranchers than the ones in Washington. You also realize that $30 a lbs. wont happen just because of wolves. Putting statements like that is just ignorant and creating fear for no reason.
As it should. A problem wolf should be culled but the thinking of killing any wolf you see is wrong.How are you with "Eat the wrong person's cattle and die of lead poisoning." Does it work both ways for you?
No reason? A small rancher cannot absorb the loss of very many $2000 steers. Most of the grazing land in eastern Oregon and Washington is useless for anything else. My extended family has been on their land since 1780, raising cattle and wheat. Now you want to say their land belongs to the wolves? Are you ready, as a tax payer, to buy their land? Thought not. If they sell out it will be to corporate interests who will develop the properties. Neither you nor the wolves will like that very much. But you just go on with your fantasies.
So on Friday my wife and I went an animal sanctuary and actually got the chance to get hands on with some very large North American Tundra wolves. These wolves were still pups (5 months) and have been hand raised by humans. That being said, they weren't full grown but still very very large. There were only three of them and we had to go through a bit of a "ceremony" before they accepted us and let us treat them like dogs. They were very powerful and we got a few bumps and bruises and a fat lip just getting to know them. It was an amazing experience that I'll remember fondly but It made me realize how F--ing scary an encounter with an actual wolf pack in the wild could be. I don't care if you're well armed or not, you'd be hard pressed to come out of it alive if they had a mind to bring you down. They're strong, smart, fast, ferocious, and work as a team. I respect wolves and think they are amazing creatures but I can definitely see why there need to be limits to their contact with humans. If putting a few wolves down is what it takes, then that is what it takes. I'm definitely an advocate for the wild and animals but I can agree that we're both here to stay and lines need to be drawn somewhere for our mutual survival.
I also agree any wild dog packs must be shot. I have seen some (looked like big pit bulls) out at our future homesite on the Olympic Peninsula and would never allow a lady or children to roam out there without a rifle armed guard. I was only armed with a 1911 and when I got back with my mini 14 from the rig they had vanished
Yes - the indigenous timber wolf was and lost out due to natural selection. It could not compete environmentally and lost the battle while other species proliferated. Replacing them with an unnatural hybrid will do nothing but put an even greater strain on whatever natural order still exists. Kind of like stocking rivers and lakes with hatchery raised fish. Should they take Alaskan brown bears and transplant them to the Colorado Rockies to replace the Grizzlies that no longer exist there? I am surprised it has not been attempted yet.but wolves regardless were here before us.
Yes - the indigenous timber wolf was and lost out due to natural selection. It could not compete environmentally and lost the battle while other species proliferated.
Natural selection???? When the west was won in the late 1800's- early 1900's, mankind went on a wolf hunting spree killing packs by the dozen. Thousands of wolves were kill per year. Sorry to me that isnt natural selection.
I put a walking stick out in front of my wimpy dog when another dog came towards us. It stopped immediately,like it had been hit before.
Sounds like your pack maybe got shot at before? I think the 45 will stop most dogs.The Mini sounds like a better choice though
OK if you eat any beef at all,you really need to weigh your concern for wolves. Oh do you wear leather,of any kind?
Wolves can do nothing but raise the price of beef and leather goods by killing cattle
I love it when folks fall in love with these type animals,not knowing what the end results can be.
I think this is the third time or more that I know of this subject getting kicked around. I still support the wolf - the wolf was there first. Mankind decided to destroy the species in thier native environment for personal gain. Now when a wrong has been righted by reintroduction of the wolf we hear about how bad the ranchers have it. I will admit that we being man must control the wolf due to having screwed
up the natural environment to the state it cannot manage itself. I eat meat and wear leather - I also pay the asking price at the store for it - I am certain it will go up in price in the future.
I also feel that anyone who shoots a controled or protected species should be punished at the max extent of the law and personally would have no problem with turning them in if I saw something like the illegal taking of a animal.
James Ruby