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Whaaaaaaat????? You mean I shouldn't expect to be attacked by an angry mob of cardboard-colored IPSC targets?Something to consider when shooting "for real"...
More than likely , you will not be presented with a shot that resembles a training target silhouette...
Hey now....paper cuts are a serious threat at times...Whaaaaaaat????? You mean I shouldn't expect to be attacked by an angry mob of cardboard-colored IPSC targets?
Sage wisdom as always from you sir.
I would argue that he was not firing blindly through the door as he could see them in real time through the door camera.Worthy watch. I had seen the raw video prior. There are quite a few lessons.
The defender's normalcy bias and complacency got the best of him and could easily have gotten him killed.
Mag dumping through a closed door is likely not a great idea. If the bad guy makes entry, he is placing himself in a fatal funnel. You are responsible for every round you fire.
Whatever type of door this guy had...I want one of them. Impressive.
From the attorney:
He is incorrect that police do not need to make an immediate statement in most cases. They will generally be obligated to make a "public safety statement" with basic facts. If you refuse to talk knowing that two, armed home invaders are on the loose, this will make you look extremely bad and irresponsible (after you just blindly fired through a door). I would recommend using Mas Ayoob's guidelines (all over the internet and pretty sure posted a few places on this forum. A limited statement covering specific information then say you will cooperate after taking with your attorney.
There are more and more videos of citizens mag dumping at people blindly. (Okay, some officers too.) One was recently charged. This is an indicator of panic and is very difficult to defend.
Thanks for the post, good information to consider.
I'll bet that with nothing more than a pair of handcuffs and an oven I could get the name of his cohort before his ears charred and fell off!!Aaron Contreras was arrested the same day on charges of aggravated assault, deadly conduct and attempted burglary of a habitation. He fired 2 shots at the door as running away. His felonious friend is still at large.
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Handcuffed to a chair and a tablespoon to the eyes and he'd sing in less than 2 seconds, and then be wishing for death in another 5 seconds….I'll bet that with nothing more than a pair of handcuffs and an oven I could get the name of his cohort before his ears charred and fell off!!
I thought Tom Grieve covered this well. Generally shooting through the door is a bad idea. But seeing the gun out on the camera plus the kicking at the door is more than enough to justify shooting through the door.Worthy watch. I had seen the raw video prior. There are quite a few lessons.
The defender's normalcy bias and complacency got the best of him and could easily have gotten him killed.
Mag dumping through a closed door is likely not a great idea. If the bad guy makes entry, he is placing himself in a fatal funnel. You are responsible for every round you fire.
Yeah, that big time. That door took an impressive beating. I'm not confident that my front door could take that kind of abuse.Whatever type of door this guy had...I want one of them. Impressive.
I use a security bar on my front door but I've also been meaning to get one of those door reinforcement sets as well as upgrade the locks. A security bar, such as this one, is very affordable and will at least prevent entry through the front door by kicking it in. I suppose they could eventually somehow force their way in but it'll take a long time and alert everyone on the street during the process. I also need to get some 3M film for the nearby windows.I thought Tom Grieve covered this well. Generally shooting through the door is a bad idea. But seeing the gun out on the camera plus the kicking at the door is more than enough to justify shooting through the door.
Yeah, that big time. That door took an impressive beating. I'm not confident that my front door could take that kind of abuse.
That door frame had a reinforced strike plate and probably extended screws longer than the 3/4 hardware that comes with the knob and since its an exterior door it could be a steel sheathed door so it doesn't have the normal break points most exterior wood doors have.I thought Tom Grieve covered this well. Generally shooting through the door is a bad idea. But seeing the gun out on the camera plus the kicking at the door is more than enough to justify shooting through the door.
Yeah, that big time. That door took an impressive beating. I'm not confident that my front door could take that kind of abuse.
Need to replace the lame screws that are used for the lock hardware as well as the hinges. You want the screws long enough to engage the majority of the structural lumber behind that door frame.That door frame had a reinforced strike plate and probably extended screws longer than the 3/4 hardware that comes with the knob and since its an exterior door it could be a steel sheathed door so it doesn't have the normal break points most exterior wood doors have.
As for his placement when firing it looks like he was firing from in front of the TV, which is smart as you don't ever put yourself behind a door when shooting.
Either way he's still breathing because of his actions
And warning shots are generally a no no let alone in an environment like his
Just my 2 cents
That's a good start but if you want one made in the USA and not china, here's a better one:I use a security bar on my front door but I've also been meaning to get one of those door reinforcement sets as well as upgrade the locks. A security bar, such as this one, is very affordable and will at least prevent entry through the front door by kicking it in. I suppose they could eventually somehow force their way in but it'll take a long time and alert everyone on the street during the process. I also need to get some 3M film for the nearby windows.