1911 ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE

[michael mayhew]

I am new to the 1911 family and just wondering has anyone ever heard of a 1911 going off unexpected for any reason?
I usually dont keep one in the pipe but would like to know how safe it is in a springfield 1911 mil spec?

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[halmbarte]

If you have a habit of touching the trigger while safety is off, they are horrible.

You'll be ok if you can keep your finger off the trigger until you're trying to shoot something.

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[spider]

If its just a run of the mill, springfield mil spec, you're pretty safe, as long as you dont chuck it on the ground with the muzzle pointing up.

 

[sandman1212]

I have carried a 1911"cocked and Locked" for the last couple of years with no problems whatsoever, like halmbarte said, keep the booger hook off the bang switch and you'll be fine.

 

[MarkAd]

I carry with one in the pipe all the time. No problem, very safe. If your finger is off the trigger and you grip safety works no problem. But always keep your thumb safety on when.
As to going off unexpectedly very, very rare.

 

[keystir]

I shot myself! Original Upload! - YouTube

Guns don't go off "unexpectedly" unless someone "unexpectedly" puts their nose picker on the trigger. This video did spark some interesting debate about the holster he was using.

 

[drew]

I've carried a loaded 1911 with no issues either. As with any other firearm, keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire.

 

[doubletap007]

do the 1911's have a spring on the firing pin?...what would keep them from a slamfire?

 

[iGun]

The 1911 design is very safe. I have never known anyone who has had an AD of a 1911 in condition 1 (round chambered, hammer back, with safety on).

Now an ND--that I have not only heard of, but seen.

 

[iGun]

do the 1911's have a spring on the firing pin?...what would keep them from a slamfire?

Yes.

 

[techieguy]

I don't know about Springfields, but Colt series 80's and Kimbers both have a firing pin safety system (Colts works on the trigger disenaging the firing pin, Kimbers the grip safety disenages the firing pin) so it would really hard for the pistol to fire without human interaction.

 

[HappyRoman]

Acccidental discharges can happen with any pistol that has an exposed hammer without a firing pin block.. I have been involved with 2.. One was my fault another was potential my fault, but not in my hand,,

Most often a drop, or other accidential discharge is problematic. If GOD is smiling, hopefully you won't get hurt, but embassed badly.

Learning from one's mistakes, is an important lesson.

 

[Wenis]

I have carried a 1911"cocked and Locked" for the last couple of years with no problems whatsoever, like halmbarte said, keep the booger hook off the bang switch and you'll be fine.

This.
Guns don't go off on their own
You have to have the grip safety depressed AND the thumb safety off AND your finger on the trigger
If you do all three of those things, there's no accident, you're negligent.

 

[chemist]

Guns actually do go off on their own when parts break. You could make the argument that it's still a ND not an AD, since it's the shooter's responsibility to maintain his weapon. But a buddy of mine once killed a phone book in his bedroom; he was chambering his 1911 and the hammer dropped when the slide closed. You could dismiss this as a non-first-hand story, but I did see the nightstand with the perforated books in it.

 

[mjbskwim]

Acccidental discharges can happen with any pistol that has an exposed hammer without a firing pin block.. I have been involved with 2.. One was my fault another was potential my fault, but not in my hand,,

Most often a drop, or other accidential discharge is problematic. If GOD is smiling, hopefully you won't get hurt, but embassed badly.

Learning from one's mistakes, is an important lesson.

So these were in fact NDs,correct?

 

[Mountainrunner]

Going off all by it's self....nope never heard of it happening.

I have been at an accidental shooting where a new 1911 owner tried to lower the hammer on a live round and put one through his right femer.
I think every cop in the city showed up to see the guy who accidnetly shot him self with a .45
I still give my friend heck for that mistake.

 

[doubletap007]

what is an nd?

The 1911 design is very safe. I have never known anyone who has had an AD of a 1911 in condition 1 (round chambered, hammer back, with safety on).

Now an ND--that I have not only heard of, but seen.

 

[doubletap007]

Going off all by it's self....nope never heard of it happening.

I have been at an accidental shooting where a new 1911 owner tried to lower the hammer on a live round and put one through his right femer.
I think every cop in the city showed up to see the guy who accidnetly shot him self with a .45
I still give my friend heck for that mistake.

good feedback mountainrunner,it may keep someone else from making the same painful mistake.
that's the kind of accidental discharge i was wondering about.

 

[Swedish K]

what is an nd?

Negligent Discharge vs Accidental Discharge. Some time in the last 20 years or so people noticed that most of the "Accidental Discharges" were the result of human error, ergo Negligent Discharges.

 

[8ball]

It's certainly possible to have an ND without your finger on the trigger. Just get something else caught in the trigger - either a crease of holster leather or a fold of your shirt perhaps as you reholster it.

SAFETY WARNING! Worn Leather Holsters Can Cause Accidental Discharges!

Even the 'snap' of a new holster breaking in (allegedly) can cause it.

Accidental Discharge of a 1911 in a Thumb-Break Holster

I tell ya, those 1911's are accidents waiting to happen.