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1911 ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by michael mayhew, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. michael mayhew

    michael mayhew beaverton Member

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    I am new to the 1911 family and just wondering has anyone ever heard of a 1911 going off unexpected for any reason?
    I usually dont keep one in the pipe but would like to know how safe it is in a springfield 1911 mil spec?
     
  2. halmbarte

    halmbarte PDX Active Member

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    If you have a habit of touching the trigger while safety is off, they are horrible.

    You'll be ok if you can keep your finger off the trigger until you're trying to shoot something.

    H
     
  3. spider

    spider Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    If its just a run of the mill, springfield mil spec, you're pretty safe, as long as you dont chuck it on the ground with the muzzle pointing up.
     
  4. sandman1212

    sandman1212 NW Oregon Active Member

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    I have carried a 1911"cocked and Locked" for the last couple of years with no problems whatsoever, like halmbarte said, keep the booger hook off the bang switch and you'll be fine.
     
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  5. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    I carry with one in the pipe all the time. No problem, very safe. If your finger is off the trigger and you grip safety works no problem. But always keep your thumb safety on when.
    As to going off unexpectedly very, very rare.
     
  6. keystir

    keystir Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    I shot myself! Original Upload! - YouTube

    Guns don't go off "unexpectedly" unless someone "unexpectedly" puts their nose picker on the trigger. This video did spark some interesting debate about the holster he was using.
     
  7. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I've carried a loaded 1911 with no issues either. As with any other firearm, keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire.
     
  8. doubletap007

    doubletap007 Beaverton Active Member

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    do the 1911's have a spring on the firing pin?...what would keep them from a slamfire?
     
  9. iGun

    iGun Pacific NW Active Member

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    The 1911 design is very safe. I have never known anyone who has had an AD of a 1911 in condition 1 (round chambered, hammer back, with safety on).

    Now an ND--that I have not only heard of, but seen.
     
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  10. iGun

    iGun Pacific NW Active Member

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    Yes.
     
  11. techieguy

    techieguy Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about Springfields, but Colt series 80's and Kimbers both have a firing pin safety system (Colts works on the trigger disenaging the firing pin, Kimbers the grip safety disenages the firing pin) so it would really hard for the pistol to fire without human interaction.
     
  12. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Acccidental discharges can happen with any pistol that has an exposed hammer without a firing pin block.. I have been involved with 2.. One was my fault another was potential my fault, but not in my hand,,

    Most often a drop, or other accidential discharge is problematic. If GOD is smiling, hopefully you won't get hurt, but embassed badly.

    Learning from one's mistakes, is an important lesson.
     
  13. Wenis

    Wenis Tri-Cities, WA Member

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    This.
    Guns don't go off on their own
    You have to have the grip safety depressed AND the thumb safety off AND your finger on the trigger
    If you do all three of those things, there's no accident, you're negligent.
     
  14. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Guns actually do go off on their own when parts break. You could make the argument that it's still a ND not an AD, since it's the shooter's responsibility to maintain his weapon. But a buddy of mine once killed a phone book in his bedroom; he was chambering his 1911 and the hammer dropped when the slide closed. You could dismiss this as a non-first-hand story, but I did see the nightstand with the perforated books in it.
     
  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    So these were in fact NDs,correct?
     
  16. Mountainrunner

    Mountainrunner Snohomish, WA Member

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    Going off all by it's self....nope never heard of it happening.

    I have been at an accidental shooting where a new 1911 owner tried to lower the hammer on a live round and put one through his right femer.
    I think every cop in the city showed up to see the guy who accidnetly shot him self with a .45
    I still give my friend heck for that mistake.
     
  17. doubletap007

    doubletap007 Beaverton Active Member

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    what is an nd?
     
  18. doubletap007

    doubletap007 Beaverton Active Member

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    good feedback mountainrunner,it may keep someone else from making the same painful mistake.
    that's the kind of accidental discharge i was wondering about.
     
  19. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    Negligent Discharge vs Accidental Discharge. Some time in the last 20 years or so people noticed that most of the "Accidental Discharges" were the result of human error, ergo Negligent Discharges.
     
  20. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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