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Timing of first time Utah/Oregon Applications

Discussion in 'Defensive Carry & Self Defense' started by tosten, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    Hello, first post.

    Had a question about first time concealed carry permits for Utah and Oregon. I took my UT/OR class this weekend. I had planned on submitting both applications at the same time. My instructor was insistent that I would have to send a copy of my Oregon CC permit with my Utah application. I questioned the instructor about the instructions on the application and the guide as they indicated that non-resident applicants from states with recognition or reciprocity of Utah's concealed carry permit needed to obtain and submit copies of their resident state concealed carry permit. Since Oregon doesn't recognize Utah's permit I presumed this wouldn't apply.

    I would call, but my instructor indicated that if they took my name it would flag my Utah application and potentially delay it.

    I wanted to tap into the forum brain trust and see if anyone had any real world experience with this scenario.

    I'm in applying in Multnomah county. I figure it may take a while and I wanted to submit my Utah paperwork while I was getting everything ready.

    Thanks.

    http://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/how-do-i-apply-for-a-concealed-firearm-permit/
     
  2. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    I think you should follow the instructions on the back of the Utah application for CFP.
    Non-resident proof of permit:
    "If your state does not recognize the Utah permit this does not apply." (skip this step).
     
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  3. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    My thoughts exactly.

    However, my instructor was adamant I needed to send a copy of my Oregon permit with my application. But couldn't justify the discrepancy between the wording on the form on their statement.
     
  4. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    IF you already have a permit in your home state THEN you need to send a copy of that along with your application to Utah. My wife and I sent our apps into Utah and locally at the same time. We got our Utah cards in about 45 days with our local lazy Sheriff taking over 200 days to process ours and everyone elses in the same CHL classes apps.
     
  5. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    Thanks for the reply. How long ago was this?
     
  6. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Combined Oregon/Utah CHL class in April of 2013 and submitted applications the next day. Utah licenses received in June 2013. Our local Sheriff would not accept the applications for processing from our class until the end of August 2013 when we were fingerprinted and photographed. A month later we were told that our fingerprints were unreadable and we had to come back in to get reprinted. That was a lie. The clerk had failed to save the digital print files of everyone who came in that week. This same error lead to the catch and release of a homeless man who murdered a young lady in a motel room and left his prints on the knife. The homeless man went on to bludgeon another woman nearly to death on a bike path a year later.

    Anyway our Oregon CHLs were finally issued right before Halloween of 2013. Good thing that Utah had no problem issuing their licenses to us first.
     
  7. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    Thanks for the info. Both went out in the mail today.
     
  8. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I got my Utah permit about 6 months ago. I did not send in a copy of my Oregon CHL when I applied and I had no issues with getting the Utah one.
     
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  9. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    Utah permit showed up in the mail this week. Don't have my multnomah county appointment for two more week.
     
  10. Pdx2seatac

    Pdx2seatac 97205 New Member

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    Get the Multnomah app in a
    ASAP. Your Appointment will be about 4 months out. July or August
     
  11. tosten

    tosten Portlandia New Member

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    Already done. Sent both applications at the same time. Have my Multnomah county appointment later this month.