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Russia's 'carrier killer' ship enters Mediterranean

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by U201491, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  2. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    "Carrier killers" have been a round for a long time. They are called submarines.
     
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  3. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Do you think the emperor would allow the navy to shoot back???

    Sheldon
     
  4. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Not till they are fired apon
     
  5. BigStick

    BigStick Sherwood, OR Well-Known Member

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    Is Syria really worth sarting WWIII over? Because that's pretty much what would happen if we started fighting Russia.

    I say no, it's not. Let the people that want to kill us, kill the other people that want to kill us. Seems like a win-win no-brainer to me.
     
  6. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    The defense contractors think so. They own many of our politicians, Our country should be a Constitutional Republic but now it is a fascist state.
     
  7. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    The better question is - are these scum worth fighting for?? The whole war on terror is a joke. We'd back Darth Vader if he agreed to trade in the dollar and buddy up to Unocal.

    Syrian Rebels Slit Throat of Christian Man Who Refused To Convert: "Jesus Didn?t Come To Save Him" | The Daily Sheeple

    Most of the Syrian “rebels” are Al Qaeda. As NBC News reports, Al Qaeda is gaining more and more power among the rebels.

    And the U.S., Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel have been backing these guys for years. Indeed, we’ve long known that most of the weapons we’re shipping to Syria are ending up in the hands of Al Qaeda. And they apparently have chemical weapons.

    Congressman Amish points out that the U.S. is breaking the law by aiding and abetting a designated terrorist group.

    Indeed, Obama’s own top lawyers warned him that arming the rebels would be illegal.

    Ironically, Obama has just renewed the Declaration of a State of Emergency for America first started by Bush in September 2001. That declaration of emergency is supposed to be about fighting – you know –Al Qaeda.

    But the U.S. has long wanted regime change in Syria … and long backed the most violent terrorists in the world for geopolitical reasons.
     
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  8. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    oknow
    Have you forgotten Benghazi??

    Sheldon
     
  9. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    This one isn't a sub and they are believed to have the guidance systems to beat our defenses.
    Look at the number of missiles on the deck of those.
    Look at how many men are on each of our carriers.
    Like it or not , we are in a very tense cold war again right now and on a hair trigger.
     
  10. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    We had this missile cruiser's number in 1980s. I doubt any US sailor is worried about this. We had a distinct lead in electronic warfare back in the day and I'd be surprised if it has diminished at all. Our lead in subs has very likely increased. The only thing to worry about is Russian land based airpower and it would be pretty obvious if they launched a massive sortie from the motherland. Putin might make BHO blink but if BHO launched his very tiny Kerry strike Putin wouldn't start WWIII. Putin likes to be in power, and he'd lose in that war in the Med. IMO
    Brutus out
     
  11. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    No I haven't
    Are you saying the embassy people got to fire upon the nationals before they were fire on?
    or are you saying they did not fire at all?
     
  12. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Lets hope lots of American, Syrian, and Russian people don't have to die to support more lies and enrich the banksters even further.

    All this to support the worst kind of scum - our supposed allies. Just so sad.

    Why Are We Supporting Guys Who Want to Blow Us Up?

    We knew that the Syrian rebels are mainly Al Qaeda, and that the U.S. has been supporting these terrorists for years.

    And we knew that rank-and-file Syrian rebels have:

    Burned American flags

    Threatened to attack America

    Said: “When we finish with Assad, we will fight the U.S.!”


    And said: “We started our holy war here and won’t finish until this [Al Qaeda] banner will be raised on top of the White House. Keep funding them, you always do that, remember? Al Qaeda for instance.”

    But even we were shocked to learn that the head of the Syrian rebels is also the global boss of Al Qaeda … and that he is calling for fresh terrorist attacks on America.

    CBS News reports:

    Al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri called has called on Muslims to continue attacking Americans on their own soil in order to “bleed” the U.S. economy.

    ***

    “To keep up the hemorrhage in America’s security and military spending, we need to keep the Unites States on a constant state of alert about where and when the next strike will blow,” Zawahiri said.


    - WashingtonsBlog.com
     
  13. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Putin is an ally of China. China now makes the bulk of the circuit boards for our Fighter aircraft and weaponry. How dumb does it get.
     
  14. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    burt wont like this, but this is all in the bible.
     
  15. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yep. It is.
     
  16. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    OKNOW
    What I am saying is if the ex-seals hadn't disobeyed orders they would not have shot back at all.
    Do you remember that that various elements of the military were not allowed to provide backup.

    In other words our navy is representing a paper tiger. The emperor and the nation he has created.

    Sheldon
     
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  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    my point exactly. I haven't heard of any trials on any of the survivors. so if they are fired on and shoot back the orders may not have been given but allowed.
     
  18. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Gee, I thought I typed my last response really slowly . . . I guess not.

    Sheldon
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Imagine how many sea wolf subs are off the Russian/Chinese coast right now.
     
  20. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    As others have said already, the real threat there is not on the surface. But the fact remains, an aircraft carrier is a massive, slow super high value target. Losing that asset in the gulf would smart for sure but it would not diminish our ability to destroy the Russian navy which h we could do from a nice air conditioned room somewhere in the Midwest. Warfare between the US and Russia would be unlike anything ever unleashed on mankind before.
     
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