Question for preppers

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  1. uncle mike

    uncle mike
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    So if I'm stockpiling some bottled water, a case or two here and there, how long is it good for? I heard that if it's in the usual plastic bottles, it's only a matter of time before the plastic affects the water, and not in a good way. Anybody know about this stuff?
     
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  3. uncle mike

    uncle mike
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    Thanks for the tip. Anybody else out there know about the self-life question?
     
  4. Joe13

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    I'd buy a 250+ gallon stainless steel container, then fill it and forget it.

    Boil your water like 3rd world countries do every day before you use it.

    At least that's what I'm looking into.
     
  5. MrNatural

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    Well there's this new-fangled thing called "Google". . .

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/foodchemistryfaqs/f/bottled-water-shelf-life.htm

    http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=215126

    . . . which produced these results.

    Evidently sterile water bottled in an inert container has no real expiration date, and the only thing a user would notice is a flat taste, which can be reduced by aerating the water before drinking.

    You might try that "Google" thingie for yourself. They say its going to be real popular some day. o_O
     
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  6. Medic!

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    Google? Do you do this when your alone?:oops:
     
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  7. The Heretic

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    Some people worry about the plastic (IMO, some people seem to have to worry about everything), but I generally don't.

    As already mentioned, you can google about the issues, but not all plastics are the same.

    Water is very important, and the miniscule chance that a certain type of plastic (BPA) *might* increase my chance of my developing some form of cancer by maybe one tenth of one percent, doesn't really worry me that much.

    I am already at risk for a number of types of cancer, stroke, heart disease and a number of other things - I will take my chance with water in plastic bottles over dying because of dehydration (directly or indirectly).

    I have millions of gallons of pure water I tap into with my well (which is about 1000 feet above the surrounding region because I live on the highest mountain inside the Willamette valley) so I don't worry too much about water purity or access, but I do keep some bottles of water handy just in case. The small bottles I hand out to people who want something to drink - I also keep some in my vehicles.
     
  8. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim
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    Ya know....why do people think this is necessary?
    Sometimes local people,the ones on this forum,want opinions from other locals and not just some random who's who out there. No need to tell them to try google,kind of a smart a$$ response to someone try to better themselves.
    Probably sorry he googled and found this forum after your remark.
     
  9. Colt Carbine

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    Why Do Bottles of Water Have Expiration Dates?
    by Benjamin Radford, Live Science Contributor | June 09, 2010 02:55pm ET

    It's icon1.png summertime. It's hot and sunny and you reach for a cold bottle of water . You crack open the seal and as you bring the bottle to your lips, you notice the expiration date two months ago. You thought the bottle seemed a little dusty.

    Should you worry?

    Of course icon1.png not water doesn't go bad. Having a freshness date on a bottle of water makes about as much sense as having an expiration date on sugar or salt.

    There are several reasons why water bottles come with an expiration date. The main one is government icon1.png bureaucracy: water is a consumable food product, and as such, it is subject to laws requiring expiration dates on all consumables, from bologna to lemonade.

    Besides that, the expiration date on bottled water has certain benefits for the manufacturer.

    Although water, in and of itself, does not go bad, the plastic bottle it is contained in does "expire," and will eventually start leaching chemicals into the water. This won't necessarily render the water toxic, but it might make it taste somewhat less than "mountain spring fresh." If consumers contact drink companies to complain that water they bought several years earlier tastes bad, the bottlers can point out that it's their own fault for not drinking it by the expiration date.

    Furthermore, many companies bottle water using the same machines they use to bottle sodas and other beverages which do expire and should carry an expiration date. It's easier and more efficient icon1.png to simply put a stamp on all the bottles (whether needed or not) rather than dedicating a special machine just for bottled water.

    Finally, expiration dates are usually only one element of a printed code that also identifies the date, bottling plant, and other information. Even though the expiration date itself is meaningless in terms of water going bad, the manufacturing information could be useful in tracking down contamination, bottling errors or product recalls.


    http://www.livescience.com/32636-why-do-bottles-of-water-have-expiration-dates-.html
     
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  10. spectra

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    MJ I can not agree with you anymore.......
     
  11. Hook686

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    I actually think until a safe, reliable source of water is established any water will do. Survival is level 1, health and safety is level 2.
     
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  12. uncle mike

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    This is Uncle Mike getting back to you all to thank you for your advice and tips on the water storing question. I appreciate your input, and to the smart-a$$e$, well, momma said it takes all kinds to make a world.
     
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  13. Sgt Nambu

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    Forum's no fun without some smartasses!:D
     
  14. NONAME762

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    Well SgtNambu wait till I am back up to snuff and feeling top notch again and like as not I'll let rip a SA comment or 2.:p
     
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  15. Mark W.

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    Don't worry its all just water under the bridge
     
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  17. Brutus57

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    I've got a 1943 GI stainless steel canteen
    hung on my bob.
    Brutus out.
     
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  18. americanredoubt

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    Try this 7 year old water stored in 55 gal blue food grade drums -- from Nutnfancy:

    https://twitter.com/oregonpreppers/status/573375742861430784

    Published on Nov 27, 2013
    This video is about the water storage you do not have. In 200 households interviewed in preparation for this TNP video, less than 5% have a adequate water supply in storage. Adequate means to me at least a 30 day supply for everyone under your roof. It is a frequently missed preparedness commodity, critical to your family's survival. Natural disasters, terrorist attacks, loss of electrical service, flooding, and war have destroyed previously reliable and safe to drink water supplies in our history. You need to store some, probably lots, independent external sources or filtering for your needs. With this in mind, the philosophy of this need is addressed in the foundation of this original Nutnfancy WROL video. Based on years of it working for our family, I then share how we approach water storage preparation. Additives, containers, filtration integration, water quality, quantities needed, and sourcing are all discussed and shown. I drink 7 year old water on camera to prove the point of our storage effectiveness. Please watch and heed the advice given as it may save your life one day.///////////////////////////////////////////Addtiives of stabilized oxygen are as follows [from www.liquid-stabilized-oxygen.com]: ¼ teaspoon (around 25 drops) per gallon of stored drinking water., 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons,1 ½ teaspoons per 7 gallons, 2 ½ teaspoons per 15 gallons of stored drinking water.////////////////////////////Other web resources: http://www.industrialcontainer.com, www.emergencyessentials.com, www.honeyvillefoods.com, www.survivalsolutions.com, also Industrial Container at 1845 S 5200 W Salt Lake City, UT 84104 (801) 972-1561 has excellent prices on bulk water containers.
    Tell them Nutnfancy sent you

     
  19. AMProducts

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    wtf? bottled water? why would you need that, that's why our ancestors put water in pipes! and before that, they got water from streams, lakes, springs, rivers, etc.
     

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