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Police use list of 30 Carbine owners to find suspect

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Brigadier, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. Brigadier

    Brigadier WA Member

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  2. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    you know about that 3 page form you fill out? At least I heard there was one.
     
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  3. Brigadier

    Brigadier WA Member

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    Yes, but that stays with the dealer, correct? or am I misinformed?
     
  4. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    why do you think they have 3 pages???
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    M1 Carbines have been made since 1940 they made over 6 million during the war and the Gov. contrators were still building them in 1967. Thousands have come back in from Korea many many thousands have been sold over the years by the DCM and CMP. Carbines have been built by 1/2 dozen civilian companies. Carbines have been bought and sold on the private market with no paper work since 1946.

    if they were able to use a 4473 to create a list of recent carbine buyers and the shooter ended up using one of those rifles for the cops to actually find anything would be about as likely as winning 50K at Keno.
     
  6. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    It is just plain ol good police work, don'cha know. This slime ball deserved to get caught. I am glad they caught him. I am guessing they hit every gun shop in the area looking for .30 carbine sales in the past year or so. That wouldn't take all that long.. of course a computer would be really quick checker as well.

    Brutus Out
     
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  7. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    I dunno about Washington, but Oregon State Police can keep all gun data/buyer data from an instant background check for five years.

    And I have been assured that they do.
    That's why I believe they don't want dealers here to be able to call the BATFE directly.
     
  8. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    The killer had purchased a Ruger Blackhawk in 30M1 Carbine and handguns purchased through an ffl in WA are registered at the state level. That list gave them a name that matched a
    name on the possible owners of the vehicle type. Outstanding police work.
     
  9. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    As Pauly on the forum here once wrote, the government NEVER discards information on a gun purchase. Those that believe they do, or would keep their promise to do so, are naive.
     
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    rur862 Seattle Active Member

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  11. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct. To think the OSP or any other police agency would actually follow the law and destroy gun records, I have a cow Frisbee to sell ya cheap.
     
  12. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    "Always disgusts me to see this type of uncletommery on supposedly pro-2A forums."

    UNCLETOMMERY? What the hell? rur862 Are you making some kind of derogatory racial remark?
     
  13. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    No, I think he was making a remark about boot licking types that appear to be second amendment supporters but really aren't.
    Like those that support the state's infringement on the second amendment, by keeping registration records on handguns and the people that purchase them, and then hang out on pro-gun forums.
     
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  14. BigStick

    BigStick Sherwood, OR Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering about how a carbine owner would be in any database when I heard the story too. I understand (but dispise) the fact that there is a handgun registry in WA, but I still don't see how that helped them find this guy.

    Note: I just looked into it, and apparently a Ruger Blackhawk comes as a "carbine" in .30. I had never heard of a handgun designated as a carbine before.
     
  15. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    30 carbine is the cartridge designation. Not necessarily what it is fired from.
     
  16. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    The handgun registry in WA is a fact, even if it's wrong. I can't believe the number of forum members who think the police should not have used all legal resources available to them to catch a dirtbag who gets drunk and drives around randomly shooting and kills a little girl.
    Shame on you people.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    It is also an underpowered cartridge that got a lot of troops killed in Korea.
     
  18. U201491

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    It is not the issue. The bigger issue is that there is a registry. You CANNOT be pro 2nd amendment and condone that !
     
  19. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    They had the record because of WA States handgun registry

    I not only do not condone it, it's totally unconstitutional
     
  20. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I totally disagree
     
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