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Look, you're the one promoting a conspiracy. So how about embracing the conspiracy where the ATF rounds up every AR receiver in existence?The 4473 is not always explicit about the firearm's configuration, such as if you're buying a receiver and assembling it yourself. I thought that was kinda obvious. I also highly doubt that in a hypothetical confiscation scenario a stripped receiver would be treated as "good enough" by the authorities. More like grounds for a search warrant.
Nope, words mean things, and at least according to the link you provided, May 19th 1986 would be the very last day that anyone could legally register a machine gunmanufactured after May 19th is banned unless SOT or "samples for LEO/MIL ".
I did 9 for roughly this reason. I would have slowly form 1'd more than half of them sooner or later.I guess it depends on how you look at it. I have seen many reports of people who were going to SBR items in the first place just use this as a "loop hole" to save a lot of money. I saw reports of people submitting 5+ tax free Form 1's which is $1000 savings. I know people who had considered doing SBR, but it was not worth the cost or the hassle but took advantage of this situation.
We don't know this actually happened. This is an article written 8 years ago. Show me an ATF letter.Nope, words mean things, and at least according to the link you provided, May 19th 1986 would be the very last day that anyone could legally register a machine gun
Not manufacture, registered, so yeah, sucks to be those people, but according to the letter of the law (at least as reported by The Truth(ish) About Guns) the agents at the ATF screwed up and approved things they should not have. JMHO but they should issue a waiver and let them keep them, but that is apparently not what the law says they can do
The last day anyone could register a MG made after May 19th. That's where the problem is.Nope, words mean things, and at least according to the link you provided, May 19th 1986 would be the very last day that anyone could legally register a machine gun
Not manufacture, registered, so yeah, sucks to be those people, but according to the letter of the law (at least as reported by The Truth(ish) About Guns) the agents at the ATF screwed up and approved things they should not have. JMHO but they should issue a waiver and let them keep them, but that is apparently not what the law says they can do
Dang! I missed the date! But as long as we are looking for letters, maybe we could take a look at the letter Bill Ruger sent to every member of congress arguing for a 10 round mag limit?We don't know this actually happened. This is an article written 8 years ago. Show me an ATF letter.
Still pissed off about that, I am..Dang! I missed the date! But as long as we are looking for letters, maybe we could take a look at the letter Bill Ruger sent to every member of congress arguing for a 10 round mag limit?
Yep, you got me, it's totally a conspiracy theory. The ATF would never suddenly reverse their position and then actively go door to door to confiscate items. That would never ever happen in real life.Look, you're the one promoting a conspiracy. So how about embracing the conspiracy where the ATF rounds up every AR receiver in existence?
Is that any less unlikely than the other conspiracies?
You have yet to clarify what 1987 machineguns have to do with anything, and if the ATF ever actually did what Truth About Guns said they MAY do.The last day anyone could register a MG made after May 19th. That's where the problem is.
They were manufactured on May 19th, thereby technically they could be considered "Pre-Ban" and for 29+ years, they were. The problem is when was the paperwork submitted. The ATF says if paperwork submitted after the 19th, it's post-sample now. People couldn't register for a machine gun if it wasn't produced.... they could however register the MG if it was made before the cutoff day. That's why the difference between "transferable"(pre May 19th 1986) and "not transferable". (after May 19th 1986 )
Bill Ruger's letter said "high capacity magazines", no number given, and it was published in American Handgunner in 1992.Dang! I missed the date! But as long as we are looking for letters, maybe we could take a look at the letter Bill Ruger sent to every member of congress arguing for a 10 round mag limit?
What decision are they going to reverse that makes my SBR a target? The NFA?Yep, you got me, it's totally a conspiracy theory. The ATF would never suddenly reverse their position and then actively go door to door to confiscate items. That would never ever happen in real life.
*Cough* reticent recall *cough*
Ol' Bill said lots of stupid stuff, but the letter is a fabrication. There is no way he sent out over 500 copies of it and not a single image of it can be found anywhereStill pissed off about that, I am..
The actual letter or words reported to be in the letter? I'll try and find thatBill Ruger's letter said "high capacity magazines", no number given, and it was published in American Handgunner in 1992.
Is the one published in a national magazine a fabrication? Did Bill sue AH for libel?Ol' Bill said lots of stupid stuff, but the letter is a fabrication. There is no way he sent out over 500 copies of it and not a single image of it can be found anywhere
Don't know and too tired after this week to look into it tonight. I do remember the last time I looked into it I couldn't find anything, much like I couldn't find any depression era photos or the G-Men showing off all the sawed off rifles they got from dead gangsters and rum runnersIs the one published in a national magazine a fabrication? Did Bill sue AH for libel?
You are aware that 1928 Thompson is both a MG and an SBR? 10" barrel, rifle stock. The NFA banned semiauto versions.Don't know and too tired after this week to look into it tonight. I do remember the last time I looked into it I couldn't find anything, much like I couldn't find any depression era photos or the G-Men showing off all the sawed off rifles they got from dead gangsters and rum runners
Congress can pass new laws, such as a national AWB, which ATF can enforce. The point I'm making (and that you are studiously trying to ignore) is that door to door enforcement by the ATF has happened recently. Consequently, it's not outside the realm of possibility that if laws change and SBRs are banned such enforcement actions could take place again.What decision are they going to reverse that makes my SBR a target? The NFA?