National Pistol Brace rule Dropped!

[sobo]

I can't wait for the ATF to eat some more crow

And a bag of dicks...

 

[3MTA3]

And a bag of dicks...

Why reward them with their favorite snack?

 

[CZP07]

just received notice that my application was approved (stamped conditionally Pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F. Quick turn around on this.

 

[CamoDeafie]

just received notice that my application was approved (stamped conditionally Pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F. Quick turn around on this.

When did you submit the application?

 

[CZP07]

When did you submit the application?

1/13/2023

 

[CamoDeafie]

1/13/2023

Okay, 7 days before mine. So I should expect during next two or three weeks then?

 

[CZP07]

Okay, 7 days before mine. So I should expect during next two or three weeks then?

I hope you hear soon.
What gets my attention is that its a 'conditional approval' pursuant to ATF final rule. WTF that means..

 

[titsonritz]

And a bag of dicks...

Dicks are always on the menu for that crew.

 

[titsonritz]

I hope you hear soon.
What gets my attention is that its a 'conditional approval' pursuant to ATF final rule. WTF that means..

It means thanks for letting us know we'll come relieve you of it later if we feel like it.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I hope you hear soon.
What gets my attention is that its a 'conditional approval' pursuant to ATF final rule. WTF that means..

Probably weasel wording in case the Final Rule gets overturned by the District Courts-SCOTUS; then it's either permanently approved as a SBR, tax exempt, or they ask for the $200 fee, I don't know honestly. Best guess. It's conditional on the basis of the Final rule being left alone or found "Constitutional " also possibly conditional until the 120 days are up then its permanently a SBR? Your guess as good as mine.

 

[PiratePast40]

Probably weasel wording in case the Final Rule gets overturned by the District Courts-SCOTUS; then it's either permanently approved as a SBR, tax exempt, or they ask for the $200 fee, I don't know honestly. Best guess. It's conditional on the basis of the Final rule being left alone or found "Constitutional " also possibly conditional until the 120 days are up then its permanently a SBR? Your guess as good as mine.

Magic 8 Ball says "Cannot predict now".

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I hope you hear soon.
What gets my attention is that its a 'conditional approval' pursuant to ATF final rule. WTF that means..

That was referenced above somewhere, most speculate (including me) that it simply means under conditions of the special exemption (ie it's not the standard sbr, no $200 required for this rule, no markings required). Speculation though.

 

[Rkangel]

just received notice that my application was approved (stamped conditionally Pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F. Quick turn around on this.

Electronic fingerprints or mailed in card?

 

[CZP07]

Electronic fingerprints or mailed in card?

mailed in card

 

[CamoDeafie]

Same here, mailed in cards. We'll see what happens. Been eyeing either a retro CAR stock or finding a fixed stock that suits the "colt commando" look of the C7 A1 fixed carry handle/FSB 12" Grendel.... but just waiting for the stamp to be approved or denied then we'll see where to go from there.

 

[GWS]

So Does this impact braces on firearms (shotguns) like the Shockwave or Remington Tac 13/14? Are braces still allowed on these?

 

[CamoDeafie]

So Does this impact braces on firearms (shotguns) like the Shockwave or Remington Tac 13/14? Are braces still allowed on these?

In the FAQs, it very clearly says that Pistol Grip Only firearms such as the Shockwaves, would be considered SBSs with the braces on them and you 'd need either permanently remove brace or register as SBS with tax paid.

Edit so yes it'll impact such firearms because braces are being treated as stocks in the eyes of the DOJ/ATF but these specific brace-equipped firearms (smoothbore barreled firearms with no stocks and <18" barrels) are not tax exempt it seems.

 

[CZP07]

Interesting. I just noticed this. No stamp. Guess that purty thing is reserved for paying customers only?

 

[CamoDeafie]

Interesting. I just noticed this. No stamp. Guess that purty thing is reserved for paying customers only?

Makes sense right? You registered as tax exempt, no tax paid, ergo no tax stamp but a stamp that says you're registered and lawful (to them anyhow)

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Interesting. I just noticed this. No stamp. Guess that purty thing is reserved for paying customers only?

fyi from post #1556:

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BTW eforms have been sending out the non stamped form 1's for about a decade now. Of the 76 stamped form 1 and form 4's I have probably 70 of them dont have actual tax stamps