So you go to the range and espouse your views? Why?
Ah, a little historic context perhaps. The first "gun laws" were established to make sure Chinese immigrants couldn't access firearms. The more significant restrictions were enacted by conservatives to keep guns away from black populations I the 1960s. The third significant set came following the shootings of James Brady and Ronald Reagan who famously (but seemingly is not remembered for) supported a broad range of firearms restrictions, as did his successor Bush senior.
America is a geographic entity, a country. The "Communist Party" is a political group, as are Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, etc... The "Communist Party" you're probably referring to would be the Russian October Revolution, who famously promoted gun ownership for all citizens up until the Stalin (oligarch) era when he felt it was too dangerous to him for the populace to own guns. At that point, there was no more communist movement, merely a renamed form of dictatorship.
I was thinking more of the type of person that feels comfortable walking over and sharing his/her viewpoint without asking or caring about mine. I'm happy to shoot alongside conservatives, liberals, and even people who ignore their responsibility to vote. I'm happy to have political discussions with people that don't agree with me, but labelling entire groups as them/bad leads to stalemates rather than solutions.
I appreciate that. If I could figure out where the like button is I'd like the post
The "like" button is down in the lower right hand corner of the post...
I don't go and espouse my views. I do, however, respond politely with my viewpoint the others espouse their viewpoints to me. As far as mass media leaning left, maybe individual reporters and NPR/OPB yes, but the vast majority of media outlets are owned by conservative organizations. King Media, Rupert Murdoch, New Media Investment Group, etc.
You could turn that right around to you. What did YOU do to point out YOUR political beliefs and how they do, or do not fit into second amendment rights? What did YOU do to explain that parents don't need to be involved with their child taking gender changing chemicals without their knowledge? You are correct, the current political trauma we're suffering is not one dimensional or about a single issue. As a supposed second amendment advocate, what did YOU do at the LEVO or MDA meetings to show that what they are proposing is trampling on God given rights? It's a two way street.
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Sure if "conservative organizations" means "organizations to the right of Mao." I'm obviously exaggerating a bit for comic effect but the joke is closer to the truth than the notion that there's anything conservative about an organization like FOX beyond its veneer.
Nope. It was the Democrats.
I didn't ascribe it to a political party, I ascribed it to a viewpoint. I'm under no illusions about the history of Democrats as it applies to racism
OK, but you specifically said it was the Conservatives, who were almost exclusively the Republicans at the time.
At that point in time (1960s California) the conservative/liberal divide was less about party affiliation, and more about age and economic status. Think about it in terms of Oregon Republicans like Hatfield and Packwood with financially conservative but socially ilberal viewpoints versus Blue Dog Democrats from the southern US.
114 is today, it's a product of today's democrats. You can blow the smoke of the past to try to cover today's bill but it's the democrats and only the democrats responsible for 114. No matter how much you say look here or look there, it's the democrats responsible for 114. If you are a Democrat then take the ownership of the bill your party gave us, 114 and when you hear on this board what your party has done, own up to it. Tell the members it's what your party stands for.
You seem very comfortable telling me what I should do and who my allegiances are with while ignoring the simple reality that if YOUR (and I mean this only in the context of this conversation, not as a generalization) people had gone to the polls in any significant number, 114 would never had passed.114 is today, it's a product of today's democrats. You can blow the smoke of the past to try to cover today's bill but it's the democrats and only the democrats responsible for 114. No matter how much you say look here or look there, it's the democrats responsible for 114. If you are a Democrat then take the ownership of the bill your party gave us, 114 and when you hear on this board what your party has done, own up to it. Tell the members it's what your party stands for.
The history and context of gun laws / restrictions in These United Sate's is one of racisms and classism, the sad truth is that "we" are finding ourselves on the wrong end of that equation at the moment
And again you try to slip the responsibility of your parties actions by saying it never would of happened if.... Reality is 114 never would have happened if the democrats hadn't created it. That's fact, not the fiction of blaming the outcome on the election on if..if..if.
Your party has put magazine laws and limitations on you, is making you pay for training and a permit and making you wait as long as they want you to for the future gun purchase. I am really good with that part of 114.
