Oregon OR Governor Brown drops mag ban proposal

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"She'll still pursue legislation to close so-called loopholes that allow gun sales without a background check, or to some people with domestic violence convictions."

What exactly are those loopholes?

The loophole meaning we are not under 24/7/365 surveillance. How else could anyone prevent anyone from freely doing whatever they desire.

The first step is having those post SB941 firearms on the books and a record of the original purchaser who is now ultimately responsible for the future sale and transfer of that firearm.

Pre SB941...well, those are off the books and out of their control.

Captain Obvious over and out

 

[bbbass]

I've seen too many people get delayed indefinitely on gun purchases like being stuck in limbo because the OSP can't do their jobs and they never get a call back.

The one purchase I made since 941 finally came in after a year almost to the day.

 

[Stomper]

The one purchase I made since 941 finally came in after a year almost to the day.

Say.... WHAT?

 

[CHLChris]

Indefinite delays are the reason why the 3-day limit is a feature and not a loophole. Too bad so many FFL's have been frightened into refusing sales until they receive a "proceed".

 

[Sgt Nambu]

The only loopholes I can think of are family member transfers, loaning to friends AT the gun range, uh... I can't think of any other loopholes.

Look at it from the anti's side! We have guns! That's a loophole!

 

[GlockFan1990]

The one purchase I made since 941 finally came in after a year almost to the day.

Sadly your the lucky one because you can a call to begin with, others will never get the call to proceed.

 

[bbbass]

Sadly your the lucky one because you can a call to begin with, others will never get the call to proceed.

I was fortunate to have a dealer that believes in the 3 day rule... he let me pick up my Glock 34 a year ahead of when the state otherwise would have "allowed".

 

[GlockFan1990]

I was fortunate to have a dealer that believes in the 3 day rule... he let me pick up my Glock 34 a year ahead of when the state otherwise would have "allowed".

What dealer?

 

[FireArm]

Shes a snake in the grass, just like anyone who wants to get paid to sit in an office and "look out for other peoples interests", lies they want a position of power and then to pass laws that dont effect them. we have enough laws and government. Let's enforce the current laws and remove old nonsense laws making it even easier to enforce current laws. But that makes too much sense.

 

[partsed]

"She wants to be just like Jerry Brown some day."
So we have to pay for her sex change surgery too???

 

[bbbass]

What dealer?

"Bull" at Muzzleloaders & More. I bought the Glock on Gunbroker.com and it was shipped in from one of the eastern states. I forget which, I've slept since then.

 

[Bigbaddude]

I think she is holding out for more money from Bloomberg. $250,000 is not enough now.

 

[3MTA3]

Gov. Kate Brown talks gun-control, pensions, budget and more

Saying there was a lack of interest.

IMO they just want us to think we are free and clear this time around so we won't write letters, protest, show up at hearings, etc., so they can cram it down down our throats without any embarrassing hassle. Either that or Bloomberg's check hasn't cleared yet.

 

[GlockFan1990]

IMO they just want us to think we are free and clear this time around so we won't write letters, protest, show up at hearings, etc., so they can cram it down down our throats without any embarrassing hassle. Either that or Bloomberg's check hasn't cleared yet.

Chances are most of us are always vilgilant and we will always writy letters, protest and show up at hearings like we've always done. If they think we will go quietly they are mistaken.

 

[Diamondback]

Do you have any idea how difficult it was resisting an urge to blast an "EFF YOU A**HOLES, I WILL NOT COMPLY" out all over the Internet at the end of writing [EDIT: yesterday, 1/11] morning's column?

 

[GlockFan1990]

Do you have any idea how difficult it was resisting an urge to blast an "EFF YOU A**HOLES, I WILL NOT COMPLY" out all over the Internet at the end of writing this morning's column?

I've said much much worse...

 

[Diamondback]

I've said much much worse...

Privately, so have I... but there's a big difference between Behind Closed Doors vs. a weekly column on a large national activism/politics site.

 

[PiratePast40]

One could hope. I don't even know why the OSP even gets to conduct background checks being as useless and inefficient as they are when NICS is faster and more efficient. I've seen too many people get delayed indefinitely on gun purchases like being stuck in limbo because the OSP can't do their jobs and they never get a call back.

Yes, that's what she calls her "loophole". It's a safeguard, not a loophole. Her answer is HB2237: https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2237/Introduced. She would indefinitely suspend the sale if the OSP can't or won't do their job.
Here are the rest of the gun bills filed in Oregon so far: Oregon gun bills for 2017

 

[jbett98]

Here's my advise, if you are getting a delay from the OSP, call them and ask what the problem is.
Then take the time and expunge your record.
It's can be a pain and a couple of hundred dollars, but it's worth it. You don't need a lawyer, everything can be done either online and/or through the mail.

 

[etrain16]

I definitely won't rest easy with this 'news' from Gov Kate. It may be that she doesn't want to waste all of her time in this next session fighting pro-gun groups like they had to do when SB941 was passed - go back to 2015 and you can see how much effort it took for them, with the majority firmly in hand, to even get that bill passed. Many would say that gun owners in Oregon are apathetic to the whole thing, and I think many are, but many are very willing to get involved - call, write, show up, protest, testify, etc. Even with a majority, they have to invest a lot of time to at least make it appear that they are being 'fair' in the process. And now this year, you have a brand new Republican Secretary of State, one that won't just roll over and do what they want - he sees any hanky-panky going down and he's going to drop the hammer (at least within the limits of his office). Plus Richardson is now breathing down the neck of Gov. Kate - he's one heartbeat away from the governorship - and if things get rocky for Kate over the next 2 years, I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson doesn't run again, and beat her next time.

That said, take no rest. If no mag bans come through this year, then those that haven't been gathering them up get at least a short reprieve. Don't say you haven't been warned. Ammo, mags and all sorts of boom sticks - get them now, while the getting is good!

Just remember, the fight isn't over, it will never be over - remain vigilant and don't trust your politicians.