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Yes, Washington is one of the states which allows the open carrying of
firearms. I can't give you legal advice but the usual approach is that
as long as the carrying is not done in such as way as to cause alarm
then it is legal. The difficulty in the law is that what "causes alarm"
for one person might be different for someone else. I'd recommend that
you consult the Revised Code of Washington which contains our state's
gun laws.
If you have your license to concealed carry, what would be your reasoning for open carry?
So your answer is, "there really isn't a good reason except people want to." Which is fine. And if the general public decides to be offended by that and cause hassle by reporting those individuals who insist on it as a nuisance, I'm fine with that too.
I got my CPL many many years ago because whether or not I'm carrying is my business, not anyone else's...unless they are attempting to inflict fatal harm on me and mine. Then I'd like for them to be unpleasantly surprised.
Plus of the people I've met that insist on open carry, 100% of them have been jackasses. That doesn't mean all are, just the sample group of 40 I've met over the years.
I don't think you're necessarily helping to undo perception of gun owners by open carry. If you have data points that emphasize how open carry have helped change perception of gun owners, it would be valuable to share.
To reiterate my earlier statements, I have no problem if people choose to. Just like I have no problem if the public reacts in a way as they have a right to do to complain about being uncomfortable. I accept that there is a significant contingent of gun owners in the U.S., but not all of those are comfortable with plain-sight displays unless by authoritative people such as LEOs. My perspective is better to earn trust and respect by staying under the radar and not aggravating the sensibilities of the sensitive.
Would be fine having coffee some day. Wrt name calling - I would point out that I did not specifically call you or anyone that posts here a jackass for open carry; I stated that the 40 or so individuals I have spoken to that are open carry proponents (in person - I should have clarified if I did not) have been jackasses. And whether or not that's name calling, that is in fact what they were. These were the, "My right! MY RIGHT! SCREW HOW UNCOMFORTABLE THE REST OF YOU ARE! SHEEP!" people. I'm pretty sure you know the type I'm referring to.
And regardless of whether or not they're in the minority (I would argue that they're not, and think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that position) it only takes a select few to taint the perception of many. Perception equals reality. Example in point: a lot of people think Union employees are shiftless and lazy based on stories they hear of a few cases where that was the case. Yet most Union employees I know are hard-working, highly skilled individuals in their trades. But they labor under the impression that they're greedy and lazy.
As it is with open carry proponents.
I can't side with the "logic" of appeasement. And failure to appease does not equal abrasive or confrontational behavior. I know people who insist that every cop they've ever met is a jerk. After a few minutes of talking it isn't hard to figure out why they cling to that conclusion. If you expect someone to be a jackass, don't be surprised if you only see what you're looking for.
Regarding 9.41.270, the key is here:
"...in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons."
This is a series of combined elements that must exist (1.manner, 2.circumstance, 3.time, 4.place, 5.manifestation of intent to intimidate/warrants alarm). "Warrant" cannot be interpreted as "cause" because "warrant" means "logically supports."
LEOs sometimes make erroneous or whimsical interpretations on the spot, but that's not a courtroom.
So your answer is, "there really isn't a good reason except people want to." Which is fine. And if the general public decides to be offended by that and cause hassle by reporting those individuals who insist on it as a nuisance, I'm fine with that too.
I got my CPL many many years ago because whether or not I'm carrying is my business, not anyone else's...unless they are attempting to inflict fatal harm on me and mine. Then I'd like for them to be unpleasantly surprised.
Plus of the people I've met that insist on open carry, 100% of them have been jackasses. That doesn't mean all are, just the sample group of 40 I've met over the years.
The WA law says "warrants alarm" but many interpret that as "causes alarm," as in the sheriff department quoted above.
Wasn't there some state supreme court ruling about the implications of this and that you (or I or anyone else carrying) cannot be held responsible for the sensitivity or emotional imbalance of another person?
Wasn't there some state supreme court ruling about the implications of this and that you (or I or anyone else carrying) cannot be held responsible for the sensitivity or emotional imbalance of another person?