Oh, well I do. A few I think I'm at 70 this year so far which is half decent for a one man shop and they are top tier. I know the topic somewhat well and I know the industry quite well. The problem with numbers is they do lie when they aren't very strictly gathered . Everyone can only hear the firing pin. I hear it all the time.
Not to mention there is published testing that readily supports you can get down to 111db with a suppressed 22lr and subsonic ammo (especially when using a long barreled bolt action).
That's really informative, really it is. My issue is that you are coming across the same as every other over educated being I have to interact with in life, the same ones who are so smart that they cannot see truth. I really do not want to derail this thread and get it shut down, so I'll leave the "bigger" person thing to you. We will get to see how big you can be. I agree, your experience in building these are far more than me, that is truly irrelevant when it comes to what I hear with "MY" ears though. My ears don't lie to me, numbers on paper, and much more importantly, other peoples opinions about what they "THINK" I hear lie far more. I cannot change my perception of hearing, nor can you or anyone else. So, please, don't continue arguing a point that will never make the mark.
I've done the same tests on that same gun with the same can (and others) and same ammo many times in the last few years. When I do real testing I use mil spec protocols and my impulse meter has a rise time of 25 microseconds which is faster than required by the spec. Those tests are always the same within +_1db as this (110-112 db).
Your ears aren't lying to you. A properly calibrated impulse meter with a fast rise time will simply confirm what is obvious to anyone that has shot a suppressed long barreled .22 with a low powered cartridge (and probably even obvious to most without any suppressor too).
Please don't use yer big werds like that, I'm just a dum simpleton who doesn't know my body
And some of are on that list among many others.Dude that is so awesome. They're probably rigging the system to get more people to buy cans so they know who to go after down the road
The problem with your ears is that they incredibly subjective.Theyre connected to a very flawed computational device that hears what it wants to hear.My hearing sucks. Rock music, shooting, Howitzers, drag race engine building, osshore outboards etc. I FAIL hearing tests on worksites 100% of the time. Profound hearing loss they say. Put me 75 yards from one of these "I only hear the firing pin" shots and I'll recognize it as a muffled gunshot every time. I did a test with my dad once. My dad was close to stone deaf before he died. He came over and I went upstairs. I put a top quality commercial silencer rated highest in its class on a rilfe with subs and took one shot out the window into the back yard. I came dowstairs and he asked why I was shooting out the window.
Exactly my point, thank you for proving it yet again!
Times are getting better:
Dang it. I submitted one Feb 22. Was just going to forget about it for a while, then I saw your post. I hope that means I'm 3 weeks out for an approval.
If all things were equal, I'd say less. Like maybe May 12 or 13, but we're talking about the govt, so who knows.
