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new school shooting solution "the sleeve"

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by bakersman345, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    http://wqad.com/2014/06/10/muscatine-teachers-invention-could-save-your-childs-life/

    Basically a thing that goes on the closing arm of a industrial school door that takes alot of pressure to open.

    We've heard of armed guards (good idea), cans of beans(bad idea see my other thread), and banning guns all together(really bad idea) but this idea could save lives I think its a good step. It won't stop the guy from Shooting up an assembly or lunch room but in events like sandy hook it likely would have saves lives and bought responders more time.
     
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  2. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    I Found this story because I was like duh keep the schools entrances locked during the day
     
  3. jrprich

    jrprich PNW Well-Known Member

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    Sounds easy, but in practical terms it doesn't work as students and staff will often prop open doors for various reasons. And folks inside will most often open a door for almost anyone.
     
  4. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    I know I was thinking online lol. Just the entrances that's how it was at my high school only the front door was open during the day and you had to be buzzed in. We also had a armed police officer. I

    As a side note mass psychotic killers are very rare and the occasional disgruntled student only has only a couple of targets in mind or is gang related
     
  5. EUGENE the REALTOR

    EUGENE the REALTOR Portland Metro Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    School shootings are usually done by students so this sleeve and locking doors would seem pointless to me.
     
  6. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me you just put a double lock on the door. The key works on either side - no training necessary. It's probably cheaper too.
     
  7. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    They hear shots put the thing on the door (they don't all have locks in all the rooms)
     
  8. jrprich

    jrprich PNW Well-Known Member

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    I spent close to forty adult years in several different school buildings.
    If the building is less than twenty years old then it may have decent enough steel doors and locksets so that a double lock set is a good start. But I worked in some old buildings that had wood doors with single pane glass and locksets that often wouldn't work at all.
    Schools in Oregon are built on a low bid process..........so you get what you pay for and often the build quality is very low. The ideal would be electronic locks like in a modern hotel. My last building was new in 2003 and we pressed hard for an electronic lock system. But the upfront cost exceeded 10k over the traditional key locks so the low bid won again.
    Same story when it came to video cameras so we only had a bare minimum and no funding for real-time monitoring. So it was only useful for after the act discovery and very easy to bypass. Every year we managed to buy an additional camera or two which were also done on low bid. The system was marginal at best.
    The solutions always seem easy, but the reality is more difficult.
     
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  9. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Okay I concede :) thought it was a Interesting product and potentially son schools or businesses like my old highschool
     
  10. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Potentially good for some schools. Had a Brian fart
     
  11. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    brain *
     
  12. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    near future, they will have one of these. :p

    "SHOW ME YOUR HALL PASS"
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  13. jim97701

    jim97701 Bend Well-Known Member

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    That and an armed teacher could save lives.
     
  14. jrprich

    jrprich PNW Well-Known Member

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    It is a decent idea and is better than using a belt on the closer. But it is a stop gap rather than a long term solution.
     
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  15. jim97701

    jim97701 Bend Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but it could give an armed teacher time to get the kids to cover and prepare to engage the bad guy.
     
  16. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    "YOU HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY."
     
  17. jrprich

    jrprich PNW Well-Known Member

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    "armed teacher"
    Very few of those in Oregon as it would cost them their job, career, and pension if found out. :(
     
  18. jim97701

    jim97701 Bend Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point, armed teachers are a must these days.