new school shooting solution "the sleeve"

[bakersman345]

http://wqad.com/2014/06/10/muscatine-teachers-invention-could-save-your-childs-life/

Basically a thing that goes on the closing arm of a industrial school door that takes alot of pressure to open.

We've heard of armed guards (good idea), cans of beans(bad idea see my other thread), and banning guns all together(really bad idea) but this idea could save lives I think its a good step. It won't stop the guy from Shooting up an assembly or lunch room but in events like sandy hook it likely would have saves lives and bought responders more time.

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[bakersman345]

I Found this story because I was like duh keep the schools entrances locked during the day

 

[jrprich]

I Found this story because I was like duh keep the schools entrances locked during the day

Sounds easy, but in practical terms it doesn't work as students and staff will often prop open doors for various reasons. And folks inside will most often open a door for almost anyone.

 

[bakersman345]

I know I was thinking online lol. Just the entrances that's how it was at my high school only the front door was open during the day and you had to be buzzed in. We also had a armed police officer. I

As a side note mass psychotic killers are very rare and the occasional disgruntled student only has only a couple of targets in mind or is gang related

 

[EUGENE the REALTOR]

School shootings are usually done by students so this sleeve and locking doors would seem pointless to me.

 

[Flopsweat]

Seems to me you just put a double lock on the door. The key works on either side - no training necessary. It's probably cheaper too.

 

[bakersman345]

They hear shots put the thing on the door (they don't all have locks in all the rooms)

 

[jrprich]

Seems to me you just put a double lock on the door. The key works on either side - no training necessary. It's probably cheaper too.

I spent close to forty adult years in several different school buildings.
If the building is less than twenty years old then it may have decent enough steel doors and locksets so that a double lock set is a good start. But I worked in some old buildings that had wood doors with single pane glass and locksets that often wouldn't work at all.
Schools in Oregon are built on a low bid process..........so you get what you pay for and often the build quality is very low. The ideal would be electronic locks like in a modern hotel. My last building was new in 2003 and we pressed hard for an electronic lock system. But the upfront cost exceeded 10k over the traditional key locks so the low bid won again.
Same story when it came to video cameras so we only had a bare minimum and no funding for real-time monitoring. So it was only useful for after the act discovery and very easy to bypass. Every year we managed to buy an additional camera or two which were also done on low bid. The system was marginal at best.
The solutions always seem easy, but the reality is more difficult.

 

[bakersman345]

Okay I concede thought it was a Interesting product and potentially son schools or businesses like my old highschool

 

[bakersman345]

Potentially good for some schools. Had a Brian fart

 

[bakersman345]

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[G1GRANDEUR]

near future, they will have one of these.

"SHOW ME YOUR HALL PASS"

 

[jim97701]

That and an armed teacher could save lives.

 

[jrprich]

Okay I concede thought it was a Interesting product and potentially son schools or businesses like my old highschool

It is a decent idea and is better than using a belt on the closer. But it is a stop gap rather than a long term solution.

 

[jim97701]

It is a decent idea and is better than using a belt on the closer. But it is a stop gap rather than a long term solution.

Yes, but it could give an armed teacher time to get the kids to cover and prepare to engage the bad guy.

 

[Flopsweat]

near future, they will have one of these.

"SHOW ME YOUR HALL PASS"

"YOU HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY."

 

[jrprich]

Yes, but it could give an armed teacher time to get the kids to cover and prepare to engage the bad guy.

"armed teacher"
Very few of those in Oregon as it would cost them their job, career, and pension if found out.

 

[jim97701]

"armed teacher"
Very few of those in Oregon as it would cost them their job, career, and pension if found out.

Exactly my point, armed teachers are a must these days.