Moms demand in Portland: Fred Meyer OC ban

[Tony617]

One of the banks that I frequent has a young uniformed guard standing outside the entrance and he's only allowed to carry a big can of mace on his belt and a cell phone.
I'm always mystified that most people believe that they're safer inside the bank because he's outside deterring bad guys from entering.

In downtown Seattle I see an armed guard standing outside several branches of Bank America. These guards are armed with a revolver of some sort and have bullet proof vest on.

 

[DieselScout]

3 pages and 41 posts.....I am assuming we've had near 41 members write or email Fred Meyer thanking them for standing up to a verbal minority and further supporting our second amendment rights? If you haven't written, then do so. It's a small time investment and we can no longer remain silent. I've written in the past when this first started to make the news and I'll write them again, you all need to as well.

 

[freestoneangler]

I think there has to be a serious retardation rate in WA.
There has to be since all the mom's there are severely mentally challenged.

"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"... Michael Savage.

I can make a good argument that no truer words were ever spoken.

 

[deen_ad]

< Why they don't have school shootings in Israel.
Notice the long gun slung over the teachers shoulder?

In downtown Seattle I see an armed guard standing outside several branches of Bank America. These guards are armed with a revolver of some sort and have bullet proof vest on.

Here in Vancouver the one I make the house payment at sometimes has one and maybe two outside. Both in vests and carrying an automatic, haven't looked close enough to see what it is nor have I asked. I know they're not Kimbers like I carry.

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[soberups]

This article makes me want to go to my local Fred Meyer with an empty holster on my hip, legally purchase a new pistol, promptly holster it once purchased, and then go shop for groceries.

For insurance purposes, if you buy a gun at Fred Meyer (I did) the clerk has to walk the gun outside before handing it over to you.

 

[usagi]

write fred meyer and thank them for adhering to the law and not caving in to political pressure groups.

 

[accessbob]

I found the OregonLive poll comments interesting from the anti gun crowd. Someone from their side said something to the nature of how gun polls are skewed because when we see one we send out a notification to have others vote too. And they don't? Give me a freakin' break. That is just another ludicrous thought brought to us by those who say that it is okay for me but not for you.

 

[no excuses]

1889 votes yes, 245 no

 

[ZigZagZeke]

We don't have a 2A right to take guns onto other peoples' private property. We never did. We do it because most don't ban it by putting signs on the door. Let's not push it, OK?

I think you are a bit misinformed. The signs and policies put in place by public businesses do not carry the force of law in Oregon. If they see your weapon they can ask you to leave, but up to that point no crime has been committed. If you refuse to leave then you are guilty of trespass.

 

[freestoneangler]

3 pages and 41 posts.....I am assuming we've had near 41 members write or email Fred Meyer thanking them for standing up to a verbal minority and further supporting our second amendment rights? If you haven't written, then do so. It's a small time investment and we can no longer remain silent. I've written in the past when this first started to make the news and I'll write them again, you all need to as well.

On my list of "to do's" for today... thanks for the butt kick.

 

[rick benjamin]

Kroger profits soar after ignoring anti-gun boycott threat

 

[U8395279]

I can actually see a point about carrying a long gun around in a store. That's theatrics, and it wins nobody any friends, but it DOES influence people...typically against OC and gun owners in general.
I have long advised people that if they want to make a political statement, rent a billboard or buy an advertisement.

I think that you are making a big mistake here in accepting this argument by this group. I've certainly never seen a person inside my local Fred Meyer with a long gun. Why would you assume that they are telling the truth about this, and that this sort of incident is actually a real world problem that is taking place?

These anti-gun groups LIE AND EXAGGERATE ALL THE TIME. This just sounds like more of their bogus hyperbole to me. They are no doubt trying to SCARE the general public by making such a claim.

Has anyone here ever heard from any source ( other than a gun control group ), that people are walking about Fred Meyer stores with AR15's?

This allegation smells to high heaven, in my opinion.
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[TastyWheat87]

For insurance purposes, if you buy a gun at Fred Meyer (I did) the clerk has to walk the gun outside before handing it over to you.

The cool part about that is that the insurance company cannot dictate to me my rights. This means that I can walk right back in with my newly purchased firearm once escorted out of the store.

It would be incredibly bad form, and damaging to business for Fred Meyer to challenge this, and if they truly adhere to local laws, there is nothing for them to dispute. Last I checked, there are no laws on the books stating that would prohibit a person from purchasing a gun, then carrying said gun while shopping for groceries.

That being said, my original statement about purchasing a gun, then shopping for groceries with it holstered was a rhetorical one. The purpose of my original statement is to make fun of Libtard Moms For An Anti-Gun America since they are trying to restrict guns in an establishment that sells them. It's kind of like pissing in your own chicken noodle soup. It was not meant to be heavily analyzed against an organization's insurance-mandated policies.

 

[CoastRange57]

Why is this such a hot topic and bandwidth clog ?

If some one is stupid enough to attract attention to themselves by carrying an AR 15, people are going to look at you. Duh. I am going to look at you in a threat assessment process...if you are carrying an AR 15 in a store,then you need to be assessed as to your potential threat level. Just because you can does not always make it a good idea.

Concealed carry means concealed, no body needs to know, nobody should know because your method of concealment should prevent any one from seeing your weapon..right ?? Concealed ???.

I will go about my shopping in my usual manner, very aware of what is going on around me for several aisles and up front as well. Knowing where all exits are and the fastest way to get there.

 

[etrain16]

3 pages and 41 posts.....I am assuming we've had near 41 members write or email Fred Meyer thanking them for standing up to a verbal minority and further supporting our second amendment rights? If you haven't written, then do so. It's a small time investment and we can no longer remain silent. I've written in the past when this first started to make the news and I'll write them again, you all need to as well.

I've already written them.

 

[TastyWheat87]

I've already written them.

What is the best method to write Fred Meyer? I see they have a feedback form on their website...physical address listed is for Kroger. I'd like to write Fred Meyer corporate directly. Does anyone have an address for the Fred Meyer Portland HQ and/or name of their PR person or CEO (or who best to address the letter to.)

 

[etrain16]

What is the best method to write Fred Meyer? I see they have a feedback form on their website...physical address listed is for Kroger. I'd like to write Fred Meyer corporate directly. Does anyone have an address for the Fred Meyer Portland HQ and/or name of their PR person or CEO (or who best to address the letter to.)

I just used the comment form on their website. The Fred Meyer corp office is just off Powell Blvd. in SE PDX. If you want to send them a letter, their corporate office mailing address is:

Fred Meyer
PO Box 42121
Portland, OR97242

 

[teflon6string]

This article makes me want to go to my local Fred Meyer with an empty holster on my hip, legally purchase a new pistol, promptly holster it once purchased, and then go shop for groceries.

I'd never display an empty weapon in public.

Even if it were okay to take possession of my brand new wep at a public gun counter and load it right there, I would not. I be armed already and keep it concealed under my jacket, or shirt, or something.

In an overpopulated urban jungle with enough players to represent every variety of statistic (from healthy to twisted), I don't like to reveal/announce/advertize that I'm armed any more than I like to gamble with all my cards face up.

But this issue is about open carry for those who want to do it. So I just wrote FM to thank them (in calm, civil terms) for not backing down.

Here in the forum, I feel entitled to opine that this hysterial anti-gun schrieking seems to come mainly from people who handily forget how their rights were originally secured. I shared with Freddies that compliance with those shrill vocalists, even in small increments, would be willing participation in the rapidly accelerating erosion of our Constitution.

Somehow, I resisted the urge to thank them for sticking to their guns.

 

[U8395279]

Why is this such a hot topic and bandwidth clog ?

If some one is stupid enough to attract attention to themselves by carrying an AR 15, people are going to look at you. Duh. I am going to look at you in a threat assessment process...if you are carrying an AR 15 in a store,then you need to be assessed as to your potential threat level. Just because you can does not always make it a good idea.

Well, but I think that you and others here are falling for a trap laid by these anti-gun folks. You are assuming that their allegation about people walking around in stores with a long gun is credible and real.

This is a very common tactic that is used by the left all the time. They state something alarming that is not true, or not a scenario that is actually happening in the real world. And then they use that to justify their real aim.

Just look at how they falsely blamed logging for so many years for killing off the spotted owls. And they used that to justify putting vast amounts of land off limits to any logging. And now scientists have determined that it actually has been competition from the larger and more aggressive Barred Owl, that is the real cause of the drop in Spotted Owl numbers.

So please do not accept their arguments as being valid. I so no evidence whatsoever that gives this allegation any credibility.

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[CoastRange57]

Well, but I think that you and others here are falling for a trap laid by these anti-gun folks. You are assuming that their allegation about people walking around in stores with a long gun is credible and real.

I am not falling into anybody's trap or am I assuming anything. I am saying that is is highly unusual for someone to carry a long gun into a store, therefore when I see a person with a long gun in a store, ( I never have nor do I expect to see) my security level just jumped up a couple levels, and some quick decisions will be made. Body language says everything, I work Loss Prevention, got the body language thing down pretty good.

People that want to go about their business in a quiet manner, and not draw attention to themselves do not roll around with long guns in situations that do not call for long guns. Jusy saying.