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Does this mean FFL's can still do a transfer?Federal case keeps the permits off until at least early January.
Pending anything new from hearing next Tues (??) State case keeps everything off for 10 days from when filed on Tues, Dec 6.
That's it.@Librarian
Would appreciate hearing your latest view on the current situation. As I understand it at this point (12/08/22), 114 is not in effect and the next "milestone" date is Tuesday (12/13/22) when the State Court decision (Harney) is reviewed again.
Thanks for any input you might share with all of us. How do you see it?
Thanks. Good info.That's it.
I'd like to see some of the Arnold docs, the complaint and the State's reply. I'm not familiar with the OR state courts (yet!). So I cannot even speculate on how this will proceed, except to be amused the OR Supreme Court laid a ruler across the knuckles of the AG. (If I were to speculate on that, without actual evidence, I might think that was about 'defending territory'.)
The four Federal cases (pending some combination) are still alive, and will need instructions for case conferences and document submissions; I expect that order in the next 10 days, and required dates in January 2023. That's usually something like
So, maybe a trial date set in February? Perhaps in court in April? Just a guess.
- 2 weeks for plaintiff
- 10 days for defendant to respond
- 10 days for plaintiff to rebut defendant
- some time for motions, which may overlap the above
Yes, if they're willing. Many have stopped all together due to the uncertainty.Does this mean FFL's can still do a transfer?
Looks like next year LEVO should focus on putting a "get in shape or go to jail" initiative on the ballot, to reduce that high rate of heart disease deaths. Of course they'd probably need to include a provision banning all fast food, so it wouldn't pass.
First they would outlaw private fast food orders..only licensed fast food outlets allowed.Looks like next year LEVO should focus on putting a "get in shape or go to jail" initiative on the ballot, to reduce that high rate of heart disease deaths. Of course they'd probably need to include a provision banning all fast food, so it wouldn't pass.
Yes no response transfers may continue as long as TRO is active.Does this mean FFL's can still do a transfer?
First they would outlaw private fast food orders..only licensed fast food outlets allowed.
Then they would pass laws allowing relatives to report their family members out of concern for their health..thereby allowing authorities to seize said fast food.
Also, fast food must be locked away if children are present.
Next of course they would limit all fry orders to no more than 10 fries. 11 is too much. Also ban 17oz or more cokes. 16 is fine.
Next they would ban any device allowing mass calorie consumption..such as peanut m&m or dorito packaging.
They really just want all the fast food..and Bloomberg will help them get it.
Bingo. I've seen the same unlikely wording of phrases in legislation in other states.I still don't believe the people that pushed this to the ballot were the writers.
I think that was all part of it and it was written by national orgs backed by Bloomberg.
Haha, maybe in Harney County, but in Lane and Jackson, it is typically about nine months after the Complaint is filed at the soonest. That first set then gets postponed by another trial that's older. Another four months, minimum from that. Remember, this might be the only judge in the county, so he likely has a lot on his calendar.That's it.
I'd like to see some of the Arnold docs, the complaint and the State's reply. I'm not familiar with the OR state courts (yet!). So I cannot even speculate on how this will proceed, except to be amused the OR Supreme Court laid a ruler across the knuckles of the AG. (If I were to speculate on that, without actual evidence, I might think that was about 'defending territory'.)
The four Federal cases (pending some combination) are still alive, and will need instructions for case conferences and document submissions; I expect that order in the next 10 days, and required dates in January 2023. That's usually something like
So, maybe a trial date set in February? Perhaps in court in April? Just a guess.
- 2 weeks for plaintiff
- 10 days for defendant to respond
- 10 days for plaintiff to rebut defendant
- some time for motions, which may overlap the above
I guess I was misreading all the posts that seem to be indicating LEVO wrought this.I wasn't aware of anyone thinking this had local origins. Bloomberg, Gifford, LEV, and their ilk went shopping for someone to push the agenda and found it with the Lutheran church group and LEVO. It was never a secret.
They like to call it a grass roots movement but it's nothing of the sort.I guess I was misreading all the posts that seem to be indicating LEVO wrought this.
Sorry for harping on this.
Magazine capacity restrictions and permitting requirements have a proven track record: They save lives! We are confident the Oregon Constitution — like the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution — allows these reasonable regulations."
I'd like to see that proof of 10 round magazines saving lives, the AG wrote about. He should spend more time jailing criminals and less time lying to the courts.Its hilarious to me the AG wrote to Oregon SC like its a reddit or twitter post. What clown world are we in?