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There is a Bar down town Portland that has Hot LZ's and they may even have a few IUD's.
Then you land that and take home some STDS.
Then you land that and take home some STDS.
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And Daniel Boone carved, "I KILT A BAR ON THIS TRE"There is a Bar down town Portland that has Hot LZ's and they may even have a few IUD's.
Then you land that and take home some STDS.
I read once where a guy successfully hunted a griz with a 30-06 and a heavy bullet... sounds good... 200yds and where'd I leave that BAR?
I would be more confident with a .44 Mag revolver, 45-70 lever action or pump shotgun. There would be very little time, if any, to clear a jam on a semi-auto depending on distance. I have never had a jam with my good, broken in, defensive pistols, auto rifles or shotguns, but that wouldn't be the time to have the first. The exception would be if there were more than a couple of armed hunters with you.
I realize that military, forest service, wildlife management and law enforcement depend on semi-autos, or autos every day, but they usually have others as backup. I am also sure that many members have complete confidence in their semi-autos, but why do we do tap, rack, clear drills?
The semiauto Browning BAR rifle is available in 338 Winchester Magnum.
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For me, it's a good reminder to have the 870 with slugs handy in grizzly country , and be aware of my surroundings at all times.
This was a interesting read. Something is better than nothing. Alaskan Fishing Guide Kills Grizzly with 9 mm - LiveOutdoors
That was an anomaly.He was using Buffalo Bore "Outdoorsmans" ammo. 147gr. Hard Cast FN @ 1100 fps.
That was an anomaly.
I wouldn't use it as a standard to form any conclusions.
Nope. . But at least he was smart enough to not be using typical HP ammo. I was reading a rifle review that some guy posted about his 357 (pistol caliber) rifle. he was using it to hunt hogs and said something like: (paraphrasing)
"A lot of people said the .357 was great for hogs. But it's a piece of garbage. I shot a hog 5 time and he ran off. I sold it and bought a 44 mag rifle"
Somewhere near the end of his review he slips up and mentions that he was using some cheap hollow point ammo instead of a good quality soft point or hard cast round. And he blamed the gun for his stupidity.
Rule 1: Have a gun
Rule 2: Have the right gun
Rule 3" HAVE THE RIGHT AMMO!
We were bangin' a target at 75-80 yards pretty consistently over this past weekend with a G19.He was a guide for over 30 years in Alaska. And felt confident with his 9. I believe he shot 8 tmes and only had one shot left. He was very experienced. I would at least have one with 15 rounds and a spare mag if that was my choice. I'm not saying it's the best choice but it's also not the first time a 9 has taken a grizzly either.
We were bangin' a target at 75-80 yards pretty consistently over this past weekend with a G19.
I don't know what my "shake factor" would be facing a big brownie, but I know I would want more power.
Carry what you feel comfortable with and if the time ever comes, hopefully you and your weapon perform adequately.
It is kind of ironic that I completely trust my semi-autos as a defensive weapon against two legged adversaries, but want something simpler for grizzly bears. I think it has something to do with being able to take cover or increase distance with two legged critters if my gun has a failure and not having the chance to do that with a charging grizzly. Maybe it is not logical, but it is the way I roll.Yea, our military puts their lives on the line every day using semi-autos and autos too. If you personally don't trust semi-auto weapons, that is fine. But don't try to convince the rest of us that your concerns are in any way at all reasonable in nature.
I've always been way more confident with a semi-auto, as all I have to do is focus on aiming and pulling the trigger. Human error is much more likely to be a person's downfall, than their gun failing them. If I am in a stressful situation, even if it was just hunting, I've always wanted to keep things simple for me.
I wasn't there obviously, but seems like this just brings a even more bright light on Apex animals.
When you have animals that see you as a snack, there has to be lawful ways to lesson the exposure on humans.
I find it interesting, how many people would say, oh poor bears. But would not want a Tyrannosaurus Rex loose running around
if they were here. News flash you do not need a 20ft high animals to kill you, bears do it very well.
I think Nature needs to be kept intact, I also know we need to always see our selves as the Apex Predator, and never let any animal hold that title, we earned that title as the smartest and most adaptable species.