On another thread about Mini 14s people have stated they sometimes don't wear plugs. I've had others shoot before I'm ready. I've probably done the same. Apparently the mini is an ear drum destroyer. Loudest thing that hurt my ears/hearing was a 44 magnum snubbie at the Range. Had my plugs deeply seated and was two spots away and it was still painful! I HAD to move way away and so did everyone else. So who shoots without? What do you shoot and why? It's good to know it's possible in a need to shoot quick situation I guess but...... What are the quietest center fire rifles/handguns and calibers I wonder? Does this affect your choice for self defense or shtf weapons.