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Personally speaking, I dumped the rifle fetishism. Most plausible SHTF scenarios do not require shooting, let alone 180 rifle round load outs. A Mossberg 590A1 with ghost rings is my SHTF primary. With slugs I'm good out to 100m. Any shooting longer than that is probably a grand jury inquiry when the law comes back.
The weapon carries its mag with it.
I do practice handgun magazine retention drills because I've busted up too many floor plates over the years. If you train to keep the mag, you can always opt to drop it without trying to retain it but doing the reverse is harder without the practice behind it.
the prevailing SHTF theory on the internet is, that as soon the SHTF every thing will turn into World War Call of Duty
There are already zombies, look at Occupy Portland they now have nazies on thier side Nazi Zombies.
Or is it Zombie Nazies?
either way you will need a mag bag
I am a firm believer that training to drop your mag on the ground is the correct move. If you have just expended 30 rounds or have a malfunctioning weapon during a fire-fight youre in a bad place and there is only one priority, get it back up and running, not save a $15 mag for later (should have a metric sh!t ton of mags in the first place). After ensuring your survival, retrieve the mag(s) if possible. Now if you have hard cover or there is a lull in the lead throwing that is different, by all means, perform a tactical reload and stuff the empty or partial empty in your cargo/back pocket, down your shirt or in a dump pouch. My belt and large chest rig do have dump pouches, I use them as general purpose pouches including mag retrieval. Not a fan of the tether option either, too easy to get hung up.
OK y'all that HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN LIVE FIRE,and not someone shooting over you for drill,how much does all that tacticool training help?
After the bullets start come your way,doesn't it throw most of the training out the window?
I've never had someone shooting at me so I can't say. But I would guess that most of us won't do real well under fire.Training or not
What happens is that you revert to your training, dead cops have been found with empty shell casings in thier pockets because they were trained to police up thier brass at target practice which is how the whole drop the mag fad started, but that fad is based on a police shootout where back-up is supposedly only minutes away and all ammo is loaded in mags /speedloaders so reloading mags is not an issue. That is a peace time shoot-out @under 20 feet. In urban warfare there is lots of cover, if you drop a mag and move to different cover you won't get that mag back, it will disappear. If you do a "tacticle mag change" and drop the mag you will have left a loaded mag on the ground, bad ju-ju all way round.
PPL here will scoff at the idea of packing 10 pounds of ammo/mags and tell you there will never be any street fighting; as a person that lived through several race riots and witnessed a 56 chevy make a suicide run against a road block manned with a 30 cal belt-fed, seen snipers shoot fire fighters and even airliners as they approached LAX, seen mobs rush police after the cops had emptied thier revolvers I'm here to tell you that is a fantasy.
The same PPL will tell you to drop your mag and leave it for later.
Train like you fight because when TSHTF you will fight like you trained. Make seeking cover your first reaction. Retain your mags when possible.
- Sun TzuThe art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable.