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A man was killed during a gun battle with two other men who had followed him home from work and tried to rob him outside his Fife home, according to police.

It was around 6 p.m. when police received reports of gunfire in the 3800 block of 62nd Ave. East, according to Chief Pete Fisher with Fife Police. Officers arrived to find a Good Samaritan performing CPR on a wounded man outside the home. Officers took over until medics could arrive, but the man was pronounced dead at the scene.

Investigators determined the man had just driven home from work when two men who had followed behind tried to rob him. The victim, along with at least one of the robbers were armed and gunfire was exchanged, Fisher said.

One of the robbers was wounded in the gun battle and both went to an Auburn hospital to seek treatment. Detectives tracked down their suspects to the hospital and arrested the uninjured one for investigation of murder. The injured robber remains at the hospital in police custody for treatment of his wound, but Fisher didn't give any further details about his condition.


 
I would speculate that he tried to draw from the drop. But it could also have been a situation where the thieves wanted him to let them inside where his wife and kids were, so he decided to go down shooting to protect his family. RIP.
 
My GF thinks I'm a little weird (she judiciously avoids the word "paraniod", bless her heart) for employing rudimentary counter-surveillance and evasion techniques in everyday situations. A couple extra turns in the car. Stopping to look in store windows when theres nothing of interest inside. Varying routes. Avoiding light-to-dark transitions. Taking note of people's shoes. Just making myself/us a harder mark.

I may be weird. I may be paranoid. But it don't hurt no one and could help avoid a situation like the one described above, even if it just comes down to picking your own battlefield and keeping the fight removed from home/innocents.
 
About the only precaution I take is watching to see if someone is following me all the way home. If I think that is happening then I drive on past the last few turns and make a loop back around. Never had anyone actually follow me all the way home though - especially not since I moved up here onto the mountain.

I can't imagine why anyone would follow me home except if for road rage or they noticed me buying something expensive, or guns or I got a bunch of money from the bank.
 
Leaving a gun range or an ATM is when I am most alert for thieves following me.

Or when I'm approaching an intersection and an attractive woman in revealing clothes just happens to start walking ahead of me. My first (ok second) thought is: "was that a coincidence or is someone trying to distract me?" Not paranoia, just situational awareness.
 
Or when I'm approaching an intersection and an attractive woman in revealing clothes just happens to start walking ahead of me.

;)

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Leaving a gun range or an ATM is when I am most alert for thieves following me.

Or when I'm approaching an intersection and an attractive woman in revealing clothes just happens to start walking ahead of me. My first (ok second) thought is: "was that a coincidence or is someone trying to distract me?" Not paranoia, just situational awareness.
Hey, it happens!

Happened to me in Kyiv, Ukraine, but I was able to deter the situation.
 
Damn- that's terrible to hear.
If they followed him home, it would suggest that they knew he had something worth stealing, so either were familiar with him or his business.
If they knew him he might well have identified them, in which case there's an increased chance they would have murdered him anyway- at least he fought.

I have the luck of living on a small road of a cul de sac, neighbors cars are known and anyone following me up the turnoff is highly conspicuous. Someone on foot however...at least lots of lights and lots of cameras
 
My GF thinks I'm a little weird (she judiciously avoids the word "paraniod", bless her heart) for employing rudimentary counter-surveillance and evasion techniques in everyday situations. A couple extra turns in the car. Stopping to look in store windows when theres nothing of interest inside. Varying routes. Avoiding light-to-dark transitions. Taking note of people's shoes. Just making myself/us a harder mark.

I may be weird. I may be paranoid. But it don't hurt no one and could help avoid a situation like the one described above, even if it just comes down to picking your own battlefield and keeping the fight removed from home/innocents.
My Wife tends to go through life with zero idea of what is going on around her :mad: A few times coming home I have driven past our street. She would start with "hey, you missed our turn". I would say no I did not, some car has followed my every turn for a while now. Every time I would make a few more turns and they would finally go a different way. Most if not all were I am sure just someone who happened to be going my way but, after several turns if they are still with me I do not just pull up to my drive.
Other day Wife comes home, telling me she just witnessed BIG wreck. Two clowns pass her, going down a hill, double yellow, at about twice posted. One of them then rolls his car. She said she stayed at wreck, gave her info to LEO. I said did you tell the LEO you have camera footage? She had not even thought of that. I called them, said if you want it we have the whole thing on video. Took them all of about :15 to call back and say yes. File was too big to e-mail so one said he would stop by our house next morning to pick it up. Watching the tape it was easy to see these two clowns had to have been having a road battle behind her. She swears she saw nothing:s0092:
She did say one of the other people who saw the wreck and stopped did tell her the two idiots were going at each other for a while. I told her I wanted the Cops to have the tape as there is no way this was this clowns first time doing something like this. The problem with people who drive like him is sooner or later they wipe out some poor person just going to the store or such. With LEO's having the tape they will get a sworn statement from him where he will of course claim he did nothing wrong. Then they will show him the video and ask if he wants to just plead guilty now to wreck less, or piss off some judge by wasting their time :D
Below is a still clip from the video of the one idiot. He rolled twice before ending up on his lid here.

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My Wife tends to go through life with zero idea of what is going on around her :mad: A few times coming home I have driven past our street. She would start with "hey, you missed our turn". I would say no I did not, some car has followed my every turn for a while now. Every time I would make a few more turns and they would finally go a different way. Most if not all were I am sure just someone who happened to be going my way but, after several turns if they are still with me I do not just pull up to my drive.
Other day Wife comes home, telling me she just witnessed BIG wreck. Two clowns pass her, going down a hill, double yellow, at about twice posted. One of them then rolls his car. She said she stayed at wreck, gave her info to LEO. I said did you tell the LEO you have camera footage? She had not even thought of that. I called them, said if you want it we have the whole thing on video. Took them all of about :15 to call back and say yes. File was too big to e-mail so one said he would stop by our house next morning to pick it up. Watching the tape it was easy to see these two clowns had to have been having a road battle behind her. She swears she saw nothing:s0092:
She did say one of the other people who saw the wreck and stopped did tell her the two idiots were going at each other for a while. I told her I wanted the Cops to have the tape as there is no way this was this clowns first time doing something like this. The problem with people who drive like him is sooner or later they wipe out some poor person just going to the store or such. With LEO's having the tape they will get a sworn statement from him where he will of course claim he did nothing wrong. Then they will show him the video and ask if he wants to just plead guilty now to wreck less, or piss off some judge by wasting their time :D
Below is a still clip from the video of the one idiot. He rolled twice before ending up on his lid here.

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What camera are you using? nice picture!
 
What camera are you using? nice picture!
They (all our vehicles have them) are all just whatever Amazon has cheap when one quits working. Several of them have the exact same controls, different names so my guess is they all come out of some factory in China and are all the same inside. They are so cheap now I have long thought of wiring one up in the back window too. I would have loved to see how long these two clowns were playing road rage behind her while she had no clue they were there.
Below is another grab as the second car, the one who rolled, goes past her. The car in front of him had just blown by her and he followed. Second car panicked when he got to the end of the road and over corrected. First car almost hits 3 other cars trying to get out of the area as soon as he saw it. He of course was NOT going to stick around.
When I played the tape for Wife the only thing she cared about is you can hear her let out an F bomb as the second car rolls. I told her it's not like the LEO's who watch it are going to care. I am sure they get caught doing the same thing on their camera's when they see something like this happen in front of them :s0140:

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