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007I would make The SN, "1" on any and all that required to have one.
But it sounds like this is a "undetectable " law vs "untraceable "
barrels weigh over 3.7oz or are they talking about what is actually considered to be the "firearm" IE: AR lower reciever?
if the lower has to have over 3.7oz of steel, most lower parts kit will have that covered. i believe even most 80% glock builds will be fine too. not legal advice. just speculation.
(11) "Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder. "Firearm" does not include a flare gun or other pyrotechnic visual distress signaling device, or a powder-actuated tool or other device designed solely to be used for construction purposes.
(33) "Undetectable firearm" means any firearm that is not as detectable as 3.7 ounces of 17-4 PH stainless steel by walk-through metal detectors or magnetometers commonly used at airports or any firearm where the barrel, the slide or cylinder, or the frame or receiver of the firearm would not generate an image that accurately
depicts the shape of the part when examined by the types of X-ray machines commonly used at airports.
... i believe even most 80% glock builds will be fine too. not legal advice. just speculation.
... I realize your concern is a state based law but even so it is unConstitutional, as many guns from pre-1968 have no serial numbers, ...
I curse you with the flees of a thousand camals for making such a suggestion! We would all be in a real world of hurt should ether of these turds continue to do more then suck perfectly good Oxygen from Us!Maybe if Inslee gets in as the next potus and brings Fergy in as his vp, you all can feel our pain . God help us all if that happens.
I honestly wouldn't wish these two on my worst enemy. I am hoping enough voting public is smart enough to realize these two are not visionaries but ladder climbing imbeciles. Probably too much to ask though. I suppose they are just part of the giant reset that is sure to come.I curse you with the flees of a thousand camals for making such a suggestion! We would all be in a real world of hurt should ether of these turds continue to do more then suck perfectly good Oxygen from Us!
I think they despise a free people and love power.I thought we were having problems up here in Canada But I am starting to think all politicians have a hate on for gun owners, regardless of country!
Bold is my emphasis.When both of these are true, the gun is NOT undetectable and even if untraceable, is OK to build if you do not intend to sell it.
... And what exactly is going to happen on July 1st? On July 1st the new WA law (same as the existing fed law) goes into effect. So then it will be double illegal. ...
Those are all grandfathered. A firearm can only be untraceable if manufactured after July 1, 2019. No firearm manufactured prior to that date can fit the definition of "untraceable".
Tjen how can they keep track of all he 'untraceable' guns from before that date?
Also my super scary ghost guns (ar-15's) all look the same whether they are from before or after the date mentioned
Forgive me for not citing the relevant parts of the law passed as I am at work and can't spend the time.
I remember seeing a section where any firearm without a serial number was declared contraband. AFAIK anything declared contraband is illegal regardless of when it was made, or any other mitigating circumstances. As contraband, possession is illegal.
Please check the law and correct me if I am wrong.
All machine guns, bump-fire stocks, undetectable firearms, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles, or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short- barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, illegally held or illegally possessed are hereby declared to be contraband, and it shall be the duty of all peace officers, and/or any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington, to seize said machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled
rifle, or parts thereof, wherever and whenever found.
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to:
(a) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle;
(b) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; ((or))
(c) Assemble or repair any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or
(d) Manufacture an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm.
Already prohibited by I-594. Wish Roberts would give himself a wakizashi suppository so we could build a SCOTUS with the balls needed to smack this crap down...What if a person just gave away an untraceable firearm?