Changing Caliber Regulations for Big Game

[TTSX]

I thought it was illegal to hunt elk in Oregin with a 50BMG. Could be wrong.

Just needs to be .24 or larger with expanding bullets. Barnes makes a TSX .510 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101065316

I believe Idaho has a weight maximum for your rifle to persuade people not to use a .50 but I could be wrong on that

 

[Koda]

Even Jack O'Conner, who hunted all over the world with a .270 allowed that when you get into Elk territory it was time to bring out bigger calibers.
What's the deal with so many hunters always wanting to use calibers where you need a magnifying glass to see the bullets?

I dont find them hard to tip over myself, I've taken them with my quarterbore pretty easy actually a 270 would be just fine.

 

[foxmeadow]

I thought it was illegal to hunt elk in Oregin with a 50BMG. Could be wrong.

A friend hunted in MT with a .50 and shot a large muley at 300 or so. He said the meat loss was unacceptable, and it was a good lung/heart shot. It took out the whole front quarter on the exit side.

 

[Pepe-lepew]

AR's are not very good hunting rifles for brush or stalking. I did not realize that until my kid used one for their first deer. I had to tape the stock so it would not rattle. The bolt catch did just that, caught every branch or vine it could besides making noise at the wrong times.

 

[TTSX]

AR's are not very good hunting rifles for brush or stalking. I did not realize that until my kid used one for their first deer. I had to tape the stock so it would not rattle. The bolt catch did just that, caught every branch or vine it could besides making noise at the wrong times.

What kind of loose fitted jankosaurus AR rattles like a maraca???

 

[solv3nt]

What kind of loose fitted jankosaurus AR rattles like a maraca???

WTF did I just read?

 

[TTSX]

WTF did I just read?

What kind of loose fitted jankosaurus AR rattles like a maraca???

 

[NeoBlackdog]

They all don't die in 1 shot?

They do when one uses an appropriate cartridge and takes the time to wait for the proper shot so as to place the bullet properly. (Why do I feel like we're going in a circle here?)

 

[Spitpatch]

There is NO "new", "wonder", "monolithic", or "scientifically designed" bullet that delivers any benefit whatsoever to a well-placed double-lung shot (on Elk or anything else).

I have witnessed a fully-grown cow Elk instantly flattened by such a shot from a .222.

Caliber restrictions (arbitrary as they are) now serve a secondary purpose of insulating the game populations from idiots who believe a bullet designer will pull their sorry rectum out of the ditch they dug when they chose to take "the only shot I had".

 

[solv3nt]

There is NO "new", "wonder", "monolithic", or "scientifically designed" bullet that delivers any benefit whatsoever to a well-placed double-lung shot (on Elk or anything else).

I have witnessed a fully-grown cow Elk instantly flattened by such a shot from a .222.

Caliber restrictions (arbitrary as they are) now serve a secondary purpose of insulating the game populations from idiots who believe a bullet designer will pull their sorry rectum out of the ditch they dug when they chose to take "the only shot I had".

Not true, bullet technology and modern powders improve the ballistics of an old, archaic round. The ancient 9mm is almost as good as the newer 45acp.


Discuss.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

If you look around long enough...
You can find an example that will prove your point..or give you the answer that you want.

So what...?
All that means is that it has been done...it does not mean that you can do the same....or should do the same.

Something to consider here is the difference between a range shot and hunting shot.
Range shots are made under controlled conditions....conditions rarely found , if found at all , out in the hunting fields.
One can be an excellent range shot...but a piss poor hunting shot.
Andy

 

[Bobbygun]

What's the deal with so many hunters always wanting to use calibers where you need a magnifying glass to see the bullets?

It's all about kinetic energy. I mean, theoretically, with a large enough case and enough powder, you should be able to drive a phonograph needle at a speed high enough to create sufficient kinetic energy for a clean ethical kill on an elk.

Personally, I'll stick to my .300 Weatherby Magnum.

 

[Spitpatch]

Not true, bullet technology and modern powders improve the ballistics of an old, archaic round. The ancient 9mm is almost as good as the newer 45acp.


Discuss.

Having explored a wide range of cartridges applied to big game, (Elk specifically, as is the subject matter), I would have to agree that the result of shooting an Elk with a 9mm OR a .45ACP would tend to be similar.

 

[Spitpatch]

It's all about kinetic energy. I mean, theoretically, with a large enough case and enough powder, you should be able to drive a phonograph needle at a speed high enough to create sufficient kinetic energy for a clean ethical kill on an elk.

Personally, I'll stick to my .300 Weatherby Magnum.

It's NOT "all about energy". It's not even "mostly about energy".

 

[Bobbygun]

It's NOT "all about energy". It's not even "mostly about energy".

I think your "sarcasm detector" may need a little fine tuning.

 

[Spitpatch]

I think your "sarcasm detector" may need a little fine tuning.

Touche'.

 

[solv3nt]

I'm almost always never not sarcastic.

 

[Xaevian]

What kind of loose fitted jankosaurus AR rattles like a maraca???

All of them?

 

[kmk1012]

I'm almost always never not sarcastic.

I see what you did there!

 

[solv3nt]

I see what you did there!

I don't not know what you're talking about.