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Interesting thing is they say he was dishonorably discharged from military in 2012 but still was able to get his CHL? I thought that was a automatic disqualification??
 
Sir's while he did a dumb thing and got a dumb prize,
if you have never had your kids taken from you (unknown reason in this case?)
then you will never understand what his mind set may have been.
good/bad guy in a bad place did a bad thing and now two girls have no dad.

"If" is a mighty big word.
 
Been divorced with 3 children.... got the T-shirt. :confused:
getting divorced and having a custody agreement is not the same as having you children taken from you and not being allowed to see them. (have dealt with many a case of False allegations and kids removed from fathers by court order.)
 
and "if" you had your kids taken you would know what its like

getting divorced and having a custody agreement is not the same as having you children taken from you and not being allowed to see them. (have dealt with many a case of False allegations and kids removed from fathers by court order.)

Make no mistake about it, you are telling me exactly nothing.
 
I cannot imagine having your kids taken away from you. That being said, the police did not take the kids away. I would guess by his action his volatile behavior contributed to that. This guy appears to have been a loose canon. Just a couple hours before his death he posted a rant on FB about "time for pigs to die" he had also been previously investigated by Federal authorities for making terroistic threats. Sad for the girls? Yes, but maybe they are better off??
 
The full press release is here News Release on Landeros Shooting

Link to a story with both sides DA: Officers 'legally justified' in killing man outside Cascade Middle School

States that Landeros was an Army veteran who served from June 2006 to June 2012 and was honorably discharged.

Landeros obtained a concealed handgun license in February 2018.

Like I said, he seemed a little fruity, especially with family insisting that his pronoun is "they". Based on reported FaceBook postings he appeared to have had a strong anti-cop mindset the morning of the shooting.

"In 2018, the FBI received information on a tip line that Charles Landeros was posting violent anti-government messages on social media," according to the DA. "The information was referred to the local FBI office, who concluded there was insufficient information to substantiate that a crime had been committed."

Two days before the shooting on January 9, Springfield Police received a screenshot of a Facebook comment on a story about a man shot and killed by police in Portland.

A comment posted by "Charlie Landeros" read, "Time to start killing pigs,"

Then on the morning of January 11 - about an hour before the incident at Cascade Middle School - someone alerted the manager of Springfield Police Facebook page that someone named "Charlie Landeros" had commented "Death to all pigs" on a post on the department Facebook page about a California police officer shot and killed while investigating a traffic crash. DA: FBI received tip about Landeros 'posting violent anti-government messages' in 2018

The only thing that does not track is the events described in the DA's press release do not match what we see on the video:

When Charles Landeros indicated [they] would not answer any further questions, [they were] asked to leave the school. [They were] cooperating with exiting the office but remained in the hallway to express [their] view that the police did not have jurisdiction and only the principal could ask [them] to leave. Officer Timm explained that he is the school resource officer and has authority to ask people to leave the property. Landeros became more agitated and animated. Officer Johns began escorting Charles Landeros from the building and advised Landeros [they] would be arrested if [they] didn't leave. At that point, Landeros' child arrived in the hallway by coincidence. Charles Landeros began yelling at [their] child to "go" repeatedly. Charles Landeros was physically removed from the building and advised [they were] under arrest. Both officers confirmed when interviewed that they believed they had probable cause to arrest Charles Landeros for disorderly conduct and trespass. There were students in the hallway and in a nearby classroom.


Officer Timm asked Landeros to leave and he started to leave with some expletives beeped. Officer Johns then grabbed his arm. Landeros was already out the door and leaving when Officer Timm said "You are under arrest" (for contempt of cop?) and Officer Johns slammed him against the wall. There really wasn't any reason for them to do that other than preventing him from taking immediate custody of his daughter who arrived in the hallway by coincidence. All the cops had to do was let Landeros leave and escort the daughter back to her mother. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and once Landeros drew on the cops his life was forfeit.

Landeros sounds like he was an anti-cop leftwing nut who was wound too tight and finally cracked.
 
The full press release is here News Release on Landeros Shooting

Link to a story with both sides DA: Officers 'legally justified' in killing man outside Cascade Middle School

States that Landeros was an Army veteran who served from June 2006 to June 2012 and was honorably discharged.

Landeros obtained a concealed handgun license in February 2018.

Like I said, he seemed a little fruity, especially with family insisting that his pronoun is "they". Based on reported FaceBook postings he appeared to have had a strong anti-cop mindset the morning of the shooting.

"In 2018, the FBI received information on a tip line that Charles Landeros was posting violent anti-government messages on social media," according to the DA. "The information was referred to the local FBI office, who concluded there was insufficient information to substantiate that a crime had been committed."

Two days before the shooting on January 9, Springfield Police received a screenshot of a Facebook comment on a story about a man shot and killed by police in Portland.

A comment posted by "Charlie Landeros" read, "Time to start killing pigs,"

Then on the morning of January 11 - about an hour before the incident at Cascade Middle School - someone alerted the manager of Springfield Police Facebook page that someone named "Charlie Landeros" had commented "Death to all pigs" on a post on the department Facebook page about a California police officer shot and killed while investigating a traffic crash. DA: FBI received tip about Landeros 'posting violent anti-government messages' in 2018

The only thing that does not track is the events described in the DA's press release do not match what we see on the video:

When Charles Landeros indicated [they] would not answer any further questions, [they were] asked to leave the school. [They were] cooperating with exiting the office but remained in the hallway to express [their] view that the police did not have jurisdiction and only the principal could ask [them] to leave. Officer Timm explained that he is the school resource officer and has authority to ask people to leave the property. Landeros became more agitated and animated. Officer Johns began escorting Charles Landeros from the building and advised Landeros [they] would be arrested if [they] didn't leave. At that point, Landeros' child arrived in the hallway by coincidence. Charles Landeros began yelling at [their] child to "go" repeatedly. Charles Landeros was physically removed from the building and advised [they were] under arrest. Both officers confirmed when interviewed that they believed they had probable cause to arrest Charles Landeros for disorderly conduct and trespass. There were students in the hallway and in a nearby classroom.


Officer Timm asked Landeros to leave and he started to leave with some expletives beeped. Officer Johns then grabbed his arm. Landeros was already out the door and leaving when Officer Timm said "You are under arrest" (for contempt of cop?) and Officer Johns slammed him against the wall. There really wasn't any reason for them to do that other than preventing him from taking immediate custody of his daughter who arrived in the hallway by coincidence. All the cops had to do was let Landeros leave and escort the daughter back to her mother. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and once Landeros drew on the cops his life was forfeit.

Landeros sounds like he was an anti-cop leftwing nut who was wound too tight and finally cracked.
Thank you for clearing up the military discharge. Local newscasts said he was dishonorably discharge and I was trying to figure how he got a CHL.
 
Bottom line. He drew a gun and shot it twice at an LEO trying to kill him. Forget all the what if's and but for's. His actions brought about the consequences. The only sad part is that his daughter witnessed this and in now without a dad.
 
Get ready to lose your ability to carry on school property with a CHL...this will include all parks and ball fields owned by the school district...it has been a hot-button issues of Ginnie Burdick's for years and this will be all the justification that they need to pull the plug on us.
 
The dead father must be the wrong race or religion as this story has already been pushed down on the news pages.
Oh...could this be the reason...it was one of THEM! 22C48BBC-8F56-4C7C-81A3-078AB7883BCA.jpeg
 
Oh...could this be the reason...it was one of THEM!View attachment 542464
Like I said, a crazy Leftist wearing a Smash the Patriarchy and Chill t-shirt does not fit the media's Evil White Male Conservative Gun Owner script so the incident is off the front page already. Although Democrats never let a crisis go to waste and Ginny Birddick is continuing to push her "No CHL in schools or public buildings" stance.
 
Called it!

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In Memoriam: Charles (Charlie) Landeros, 1988-January 11, 2019
Charles (Charlie) Landeros was a 30-year-old person who was shot and killed by unknown Eugene police officer(s) on the morning of January 11, 2019. Charlie was born in Hong Kong, and migrated with their family to the US, where Charlie was raised on Kalapuya land in Eugene, Oregon. Charlie attended Cascade Middle School, also where they were tragically killed yesterday, and graduated from Willamette High School, enlisted in the Army at age 17. Upon being honorably discharged from the military, he attended the University of Oregon. Charlie was most proud of being a parent to two daughters ages 10 and 12 and has (had) custody of his daughters. Witness: man killed by police was shot in front of daughter
An eyewitness to the shooting said Landeros was shot in front of his daughter.

Looks like he was some sort of SJW activist at U of O. College photos

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Maybe a little fruity

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So not an Angry Evil White Male. Eugene Police have some 'splaiing to do.

A city-data.com database lists Landeros as a licensed pilot and aviation mechanic as well.

Considering you made this guess along with your other guess asserting it was cops burning him down, you're as accurate as the weatherman.
 
Guy lost his kids? In what way? "Had his kids taken" doesn't make any sense unless he had custody. And it doesn't sound like he did. Having sole custody given to the ex and being prohibited from seeing them is not having kids taken.

Every person has reasons for his actions... that doesn't make ALL behaviors ok.
 
Considering you made this guess along with your other guess asserting it was cops burning him down, you're as accurate as the weatherman.

Yep, about 50/50. I was correct about the police (Officer Johns) manhandling him out the door. I am not sure why they choose to escalate when he was leaving? If the police had released the fact that Landeros had shot first I would not have made that guess and it could have put a damper on the protests. With his terroristic posts on the internet reported to the FBI, he was on the fast track to loosing his CHL anyway.
 

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