Cartridge Choice: Military vs You

[11Charlie]

30-06 FTW

I don't see myself needing anything different unless life changes and I have access to very long range hunting for something exotic.

Except when you sell your 06 to a good buddy and the only thing you have left is 308.

 

[Stomper]

Hope to God no woman ever laughs at your winkie....

Can't laugh with their mouth full... that'd just be too rude!

 

[Alexx1401]

To me, its a reasonable maximum range because most hunting cartridges with a 200 yard zero will get to 400 with 16 to 20 inches of drop. A deer is roughly 12-14 inches from brisket to backline. If your cartridge drops 16 inches, you're only a few inches over the back and youre good.

I personally would not try it any more but, I have certainly seen many who can hit what they shoot at, at that range so why not? I don't like hunters taking "pot shots" at game animals but if someone can hit what they shoot at several hundred yards away I have zero problem with them doing so.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

See, that makes my IBS flare up. I prefer the WHACK sound a bullet makes when it hits the ribs.

bullet impact is pretty loud... i know because i hunt with a suppressor

 

[No_Regerts]

bullet impact is pretty loud... i know because i hunt with a suppressor

Buy a 338 Win Mag, its cheaper than a supressor and gives quite the whack!

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

Buy a 338 Win Mag, its cheaper than a supressor and gives quite the whack!

LOL ive shot one. a m77 mkII(?)

synthetic stock. kicks like a damn mule!!

 

[No_Regerts]

LOL ive shot one. a m77 mkII(?)

synthetic stock. kicks like a damn mule!!

Kills on one end, maims on the other.

 

[osprey]

Yep I remeber those days when I thought I needed those big boomers to make longer shots. Ah the folly of youth. Thank god with age came some wisdom as well. I probably would still be curled up in the fetal position crying for mama if I hadn't got rid of that cursed 338 rum.

 

[No_Regerts]

Yep I remeber those days when I thought I needed those big boomers to make longer shots. Ah the folly of youth. Thank god with age came some wisdom as well. I probably would still be curled up in the fetal position crying for mama if I hadn't got rid of that cursed 338 rum.

I definitely don't think its wise yo fear your rifle, but I will generally give myself the most margin of error that I can.

 

[osprey]

It was a love hate affair for sure. It was a model 700 rem and one of the most accurate production rifles I have ever shot. It would print 200 yd groups most guys would be proud of at 100. However, I finally realized I was starting to develop a flinch from the damn thing. Not being a fan of brakes it had to go.

 

[HB of CJ]

Do some states have minimum energy requirements for deer hunting? Can I use a .30 Carbine SP round for the deer in Oregon? Can I hunt with a can in Oregon? Of course I would have to buy that can first. $$$

 

[Joe13]

Do some states have minimum energy requirements for deer hunting? Can I use a .30 Carbine SP round for the deer in Oregon? Can I hunt with a can in Oregon? Of course I would have to buy that can first. $$$

WA is a 6mm bullet from a barrel longer then 4" and has to be sufficient for the game you are shooting - as a summery as far as I can remember.

I guess that leaves it up to the game wardens discression to some extent.

 

[Stomper]

Do some states have minimum energy requirements for deer hunting? Can I use a .30 Carbine SP round for the deer in Oregon? Can I hunt with a can in Oregon? Of course I would have to buy that can first. $$$

You can hunt deer in Oregon with any CENTERFIRE cartidge... no rimfire rounds are (legally) allowed.

 

[Stomper]

you should post this pic in every thread. it might as well just be your signature LOL!!

Shhhh..... stop talking, you'll ruin it. I'm almost there.

 

[No_Regerts]

Shhhh..... stop talking, you'll ruin it. I'm almost there.

 

[smith]

I was given a well used ruger 7 mm rem mag when I was 12. It has served me well for the past 23 years. I did finally through a limb saver but pad on it a few years back as by shot number 9 I was starting to flinch a bit later in life. It has gone after bear, deer, and elk with zero issues. In the heat of the moment I would rather have more than less and when you have that animal in your sights I trust that with my 7 mag. it will go down. While a case can be made for the smaller caliber guns for me when it comes to hunting anything larger than deer I just don't see the point. Now if you only have the money for 1 gun and it needs to cover both defense and something you can hunt with well then I can see 308 or 30-06.

 

[snarlingdog]

The biggest problem I have e on public land is if I see a shoot-able deer at say 200+ yards there is at least 3 hunters that might also see it. And one is behind you and he shoots at 300 yards. Public land can be scary at 200+ yards a lot of people dont check the surrounding area or what's behind the animal.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

Shhhh..... stop talking, you'll ruin it. I'm almost there.

 

[Pandaz3]

A good example right there. Why shoot a 308 when you can add 12mm more case length and get another 100 to 200 fps by going with a 30-06? In the same model of rifle, this difference in weight between guns might be 2 or 3 oz. probably less.

It is not just the round your 30-06 is likely to have a 26" barrel compared to the 22" more common to 308's. A person could use different powder too and get closer to the performance with a 308. The big thing here really is long actions compared to short actions. As a Kid I was taught to use a 30-30, the only acceptable deer rifle unless you were lucky enough for a 32 Winchester Special, of borrowed a Savage 99 in 303 Savage. 30-06 were ELK rifles, where is your sense of decorum?

 

[powermad]

So when I hunt with my 1917 Eddystone does that make it a military rifle?