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All that education, and the notion put forth was lost on you. Your original post was not a suggestion -- pay attention to the words you used.It cracks me up when reloaders show how thin skinned they are at the mere suggestion they aren't getting rich reloading and pointing out intellectually HONEST calculations. This thread is titled,
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Yet how dare someone like me (with an MBA and plenty of economics courses) try to suggest many of you are leaving out key variable inputs in your "costs of reloading"
I'm also going to have an old Lee Classic Turret given to me, so that will be 3 presses.
The economic argument is not purely MONETARY. There's also opportunity costs.
10 hours spent reloading *might* save a reloader $500. "Wow," he thinks, look at all the money I saved this weekend reloading. That's 10 hours NOT doing something else, but sitting at a press pulling a lever or similar sedentary...
Meanwhile, this sedentary lifestyle costs him time doing XYZ which might improve his marriage, relations with kids, health, etc. So is it *really* saving money? Dunno. Reloading might be a great money saving venture for someone who cannot earn a living or would otherwise spend it smoking cigars in a casino betting on horses and losing. Or it might actually be more expensive than, say, spending time improving a marriage that might otherwise end in a $50,000 divorce and asset split. Or improving health to avoid that fated cardiac arrest at age 55 from being overweight from sitting at a reloading bench for 3 decades "saving money" pulling a lever.
That's opportunity costs.
It cracks me up when reloaders show how thin skinned they are at the mere suggestion they aren't getting rich reloading and pointing out intellectually HONEST calculations. This thread is titled, "
Beginners Guide to Reloading Costs (most cost effective rounds you have)"
Yet how dare someone like me (with an MBA and plenty of economics courses) try to suggest many of you are leaving out key variable inputs in your "costs of reloading" calculations. Then invariably, folks will come along, attack the messenger for daring to inject reality in the calculation, tell me to go away, and remind me that "it's a hobby," blah blah blah.
If it's a hobby, then fine. But don't pretend that it's all this free money growing on trees when that's a totally dishonest calculation when you refuse to calculation time and opportunity costs.
Or don't be mad when I say I got some free guns today. I just had to work to earn the money to buy them, but they were free because I enjoy my job.
If reloading is the sole cause of a divorce, strained relations with kids, or a reason to get fat then I wanna see their bench!The economic argument is not purely MONETARY. There's also opportunity costs.
10 hours spent reloading *might* save a reloader $500. "Wow," he thinks, look at all the money I saved this weekend reloading. That's 10 hours NOT doing something else, but sitting at a press pulling a lever or similar sedentary...
Meanwhile, this sedentary lifestyle costs him time doing XYZ which might improve his marriage, relations with kids, health, etc. So is it *really* saving money? Dunno. Reloading might be a great money saving venture for someone who cannot earn a living or would otherwise spend it smoking cigars in a casino betting on horses and losing. Or it might actually be more expensive than, say, spending time improving a marriage that might otherwise end in a $50,000 divorce and asset split. Or improving health to avoid that fated cardiac arrest at age 55 from being overweight from sitting at a reloading bench for 3 decades "saving money" pulling a lever.
That's opportunity costs.
It cracks me up when reloaders show how thin skinned they are at the mere suggestion they aren't getting rich reloading and pointing out intellectually HONEST calculations. This thread is titled, "
Beginners Guide to Reloading Costs (most cost effective rounds you have)"
Yet how dare someone like me (with an MBA and plenty of economics courses) try to suggest many of you are leaving out key variable inputs in your "costs of reloading" calculations. Then invariably, folks will come along, attack the messenger for daring to inject reality in the calculation, tell me to go away, and remind me that "it's a hobby," blah blah blah.
If it's a hobby, then fine. But don't pretend that it's all this free money growing on trees when that's a totally dishonest calculation when you refuse to calculation time and opportunity costs.
Or don't be mad when I say I got some free guns today. I just had to work to earn the money to buy them, but they were free because I enjoy my job.
That snake of his has a tail !But you only have TWO arms!
All that education, and the notion put forth was lost on you. Your original post was not a suggestion -- pay attention to the words you used.
I'm not here to argue (though my actions suggest otherwise), nor threatened by your thinking - it's like arguing over which Christian faith is the "true" one.
I admit, I am irritated by your belligerence and insistence in your 'correct' thinking. But, I think that is part of your nature, as evidenced by your belittling replies when seeking moving options to Boise and respondants suggested using movers. (some folks like the simplest approach).
Your logic is flawed on the lack of recognition of the both stated and implicit fact - it's a H-O-B-B-Y.
I must say, though, I am surprised you didn't bring up time value of money in support of your argument.
then when pointed out you're wrong, fall back on moving the goal posts
Buwhawhawha !! That was too easy!!You plainly don't get it.
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you again don't know what you're talking about.
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so I dismissed those answers
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That is a lie,
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try to learn something
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you aren't being honest.
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your math is wrong.
I'm not trying to start a fight, or offend folks...
And I'm genuinely sorry to burst some of your bubbles that your math is wrong...
...I'm simply attempting to dispel oft repeated myths of the reloader who is making all this ammo for 1/2 price or whatever because it's just not so if one is being honest and including real input costs (equipment, space costs, time, etc.) with real honest figures.
Why does this thread all of a sudden remind me of this (yet I'm not sure who's who! )
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