The mag holder you suggested would work great with or without mag in the holder. I would want mine mounted so the rear portion of the mag holder extends beyond the extension tube. That way if it incidently bumped my shoulder it would be more comfortable than being bumped by the bare extension tube. You may be able to pad the exterior of the mag carrier to make it comfortable for a cheek weld.
That's already taken up by the over the shoulder boner holder.
This might not be hard to recreate in AR15 platform if you had a really long extension tube. It might make a fun project to do as a rifle. Just slap a piece of plastic pipe with shoulder stop over the factory ext tube. Mounting an optic off the handguard would probably be easy. I wonder how this style of shooting would go over at TCGC.Barrett did it in the late 80s/early 90s, with bullpup layout even!
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I read it tO read "grip", as in any grip, angled or vertical, since it doesn't say vertical grip. Many of the other items are quite specific so I would think if they meant vertical grip they would say that. But hard to interpret and they may even have left it intentionally vague who knows. One of the numerous flaws of this bs point system.
That's the game, deliberately create a Kafka Trap that it's impossible to comply with.
I got it now, I think you may be right about that. Those guys are getting sneakier by the day. I guess handstops and AFGs might be differentiated for score card purposes. I assumed they accomplished the same task. I own one of each but have never used either one.
Would you mind walking me through the process? I've researched and read up on it but still confusing. I need a little hand holding thru it. Thanks.
I am not convinced this is the case from my research. The between 12-26" keeps it eligible for evaluation as a pistol with a brace using their point system. Longer than 26" oal and ATF considers it needing 2 hands to fire and from what I am reading it will still fall under scrutiny if it has a brace. Bottom line is I think they are coming after anything with a barrel under 16" with a brace. I hope I am wrong but that is what I am interpreting. I will try and dig up some text that leads me to this conclusion.
If you can provide a link to a maximum barrel length for pistols or "firearms" please post it here. To be a rifle a gun will need a stock. If the gun has a brace it's either a pistol or a "firearm". This will change in August when braced pistols under 26 inches in overall length that score 4 or more points will be SBRs.
Imagine a revolver with a 48 inch barrel. It's still a handgun because it doesn't have a stock.
There seems to be no maximum barrel length. Just the minimum barrel lengths for rifles and shotguns to avoid being "Short Barreled" firearms.
even though no certified firearms instructors say that you can't use both hands to shoot your service pistol
I don't think I would try shooting either of these with one hand. Skip to 6 minute mark to see 20 inch revolver and skip to 10 minute mark to see 26 inch revolver.Its of interest that there are no maximum length defined for a "pistol/handgun" but they made it a point that a pistol must be "designed to be shot with one hand"
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