My understanding is from end of extension tube to muzzle end of barrel. Brace and muzzle device won't count towards OAL.Where measure from? End of buffer tube to muzzle crown without device?
End of receiver (no buffer tube) to muzzle crown, no device?
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End of fully extenfed "brace" to ebd of barrel with device?
It's possible you could count the muzzle device if it's pinned and welded. Not sure if they would considered that an operational accessory at that point but maybe.
Well if the ATF considers pin/welded muzzle devices good to go to bring 12-14.5" actual barrels to "16 inches" legal rifle barrels, then it should be good to go for OAL measurements?
They might be, only one way to know for sure. Build one send it in for inspection and let us know what they say
Here's the link without the google all over it:Looks like new pistol point based system will begin in August.
So sometime in June, ATF's new definitions and regulations will go into effect for the receivers, silencers, other categories, and sometime in August the rules will go into effect for pistol stabilizing brace-equipped firearms.
BREAKING: Federal Register Publishes Schedule For ATF's Firearm, Silencer, and Pistol Brace Final Regulations - The Truth About Guns
◀Previous Post Next Post▶ Set to publish tomorrow, but for some reason already public on govinfo (or download the PDF HERE), the January 31, 2022 Federal Register details ATF’s plans to finalize its rulemaking and regulations related to the definitions of firearm, firearm frame/receiver...www.google.com
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Thanks not sure how I spilled google all over that other link.Here's the link without the google all over it:
BREAKING: Federal Register Publishes Schedule For ATF's Firearm, Silencer, and Pistol Brace Final Regulations - The Truth About Guns
◀Previous Post Next Post▶ Set to publish tomorrow, but for some reason already public on govinfo (or download the PDF HERE), the January 31, 2022 Federal Register details ATF’s plans to finalize its rulemaking and regulations related to the definitions of firearm, firearm frame/receiver...
That bubblegum gets everywhere. Better just not to open the bottle in the first place. Of course, one of your friends could have tracked in on their shoe when they shared a link with you.
I understand there could be some length of pull issue but I am not sure how they would calculate the length of pull when you are only holding it to your cheek.Sort of related, is the extended extension tubes. Some have said the ATF won't allow the extended ones full length to be counted because you don't need the extra length to operate the firearm. That seems like hogwash to me, it would be like them saying you don't need this extra barrel length so we are only going to measure 10.5 inches of it.
This one is a monster.
Extended Reach -7 Position Receiver Extension, Carbine - SMF Tactical Exclusive
7 Position Carbine Buffer Tube for People with Extra Long Arms
If it is pinned and "welded" then it counts as part of the barrel, whether it is rifled or not. There are a number of examples of that which count towards the length of the barrel, and some which count towards OAL (e.g. for the latter - the FN PS90 which has a 16" barrel but the shroud which extends well past the end of the barrel, is necessary to make it 26" long - the shroud is not pinned to the barrel, but the flash hider is pinned to the shroud and the shroud is attached to the barrel at the breech end and the gun will not function without the shroud - if I understand how the mechanism works).
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I did the same afte rhaving gotten a blade brace in the old school CAR style for my 12" 6.5 Grendel retro firearm. The OAL with the muzzle device and the standard carbine buffer tube was right around 27.5 inches so its greater than 26" if muzzle device were removed.I went to a cheek rest. Apparently per manufacture claim they are kosher with atf. On sale now too.
AR/AK Enhanced Pistol Cheek Rest Kit W/MFT Saddle (Black)
SKU #5034B Installation Video ATF ADVISORY BELOW
Scroll down you'll see inventors request to atf then there response back.
What was the approval time?
17 business days
I have 2 I may as well get done.
It is super simple. Some members here walked me through the process. It amazed me how easy and fast it was.
I'm not 100 percent sure. So I don't want to offer the wrong advice. I dont conceal mine.
