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Why isn't this Rape?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by RicInOR, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And why no Sexual Predator / or Sex Offender registry?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2015/03/jill_curry_sentenced_to_4_year.html

    Jill Curry - had sex with an inmate, multiple times, in the Washington County jail.
    - The guy is an inmate, she had the power - the keys, the access to his cell, therefore isn't that rape?
    - She had sex with someone who could not leave?
    - Repeatedly, therefore isn't that worthy of being monitored?


    Also - while I like my Sheriff, how could this have happened? Why would he leave a civilian employee alone in the maximum-security unit. Why wasn't there a deputy on-duty? Why didn't the command and control center notice she was grabbing the inmate out of his cell to take him for sex?

    Now the Oregonian reports there is a pattern of behaviour at the Jail - that this is the normal way of doing things. When you have caught 3 people forcing themselves on inmates, how many more have done that without being caught.

    Pat Garrett needs to resign, and the whole department need to be investigated.


    2nd Person
    http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2014/08/2nd_washington_county_jail_wor.html

    3rd Person
    http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2015/03/jill_curry.html
     
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  2. Leif Runenritzer

    Leif Runenritzer Kernilyis Active Member

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    Depends on which definition of rape you go by. There are people and ideologies that believe that woman can't rape, and they will magick it out of existence by manipulating language.
     
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  3. wayfarer

    wayfarer Central Ory-Gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You will have a hard time (pun intended) convincing me that a guy in jail has to be raped by a woman.
    Sounds more something consensual. Apparently they each had something that the other needed/wanted.
     
  4. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Well, he did sign off on my SBR.. So Im not too against him.

    But damn.. Why bang those losers?
    I mean she isnt "my" cup of tea but Ive been with ladies that are in her looks department... With that said she isnt "hideous" but shes no Eva Mendes.. Im quite sure she could get other guys.

    Me thinks this is phycological, the thrill of sleeping with a "bad boy", having that said power and knowing that shes "lusted after"..
    I think this is an insecurity issue more than a power issue.

    But why go at it with a bunch of losers?
    Man women shock me sometimes.
     
  5. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    How could it be? She unlocked cell, They MET in supply closet and bumped uglies....Sounds like sex with a lot of bad decisions leading to it but not even close to rape.

    If I were stuck in jail, I'd be right there in his place. Beats the alternative.:eek:
     
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  6. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Simple answer.
    You can't rape the willing.
     
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  7. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    There is no such thing as consensual sex in any of Oregon's prison or jail facilities.
     
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  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Geeze! I'd only do that if I was facing a thousand years!!!
     
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  9. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Judge: Did she rape you?
    Victim: Yes your Honor, she made me c0me

    BTW...What's with that guy on the right...lol

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  10. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Hes there to object by sqwaking really loudly.
     
  11. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    You can bet money that had the genders been swapped and the inmate been a female with male staff that there would have been a whole different outcome. To include the department going through a series of "changes".

    To be honest I'm surprised they got any time at all. If not for the somewhat recent addition of the "custodial misconduct" laws, you likely wouldn't have even heard about this.
     
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  12. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    It's Toxic, third wave, Feminism I tell you.
    Toxic, third wave, Feminism!;)
     
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  13. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Like mentioned above, "you can't rape the willing". Like a 16 yo boy gettin it from a hot 30 yo teacher, that's why most male kids don't learn nothing in her English class (cept rape, tehe)!!!!:eek:
     
  14. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    I have to wonder . . . Did the prisoner have a current "clean health" certificate??!?!?!?

    Sheldon
     
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  15. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

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    Yeah, if I was in jail, which I'm not, I'm not sure I would mind a little... erm.... attention.
     
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  16. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I know that it is a sensitive subject, but we as a country seem to be addressing it in a bunch of ways.
    I agree, there are those who think a man can not be the victim.
    I agree there are double standards
    I agree that those in prison are frequently viewed as getting what they deserve.

    But the issues remain - the man could not take her, or control her, she had the keys, the alarms, the control over the situation. He was locked in a cell until she removed him.

    I understand that he was likely willing. But, a 15 yr old boy is willing too - but he cannot consent in most jurisdictions.

    Like @IheartSig, if the roles were reversed, a male attendant bringing out a female inmate, he'd be on the sex offenders list, and likely charged with rape.


    Look at Glenn Reynold's series "Teach Women Not to Rape" there seems to be an epidemic of this, right now.

    The standards have to remain constant. What is right not who is right. What if this was a male employee having sex with a male inmate? No different standards.




    What bothers me most, is that this is an institutional failing. A system which allowed this to occur, over and over and over again. In my county. Under a sheriff that I voted for.
     
  17. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    People often make light of situations like this, like that of boys who wind up having sex with their female teachers as well. That's part of the issue. It's easy to say things like "where we're those teachers when I was in school" and things like that.

    The reality is, women CAN be sex offenders. They are often portrayed as victims, even when they are clearly the aggressor.

    So a male inmate "seduces" a female officer into having sex (bet that also involved other favors, like smuggling in drugs etc) and people say "poor lady, the dirty inmate tricked her into doing that"

    NOW Flip it.

    A male officer has sex with a female inmate and BAM! rapist/sex offender/pervert/monster. I'm here to tell you, that female inmates are far more manipulative as a whole than their male counterparts.

    I'm not saying either is right, in fact they are both very wrong and every officer in a jail or prison KNOWS it.

    The point is, women do really screwed up things too. Just because they are female, doesn't mean they should catch a break in comparison to an equal male counterpart.

    And if you don't believe a woman can rape/molest/take advantage of a man, you need to do some research.
     
  18. albin25

    albin25 Lewiston Idaho Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="And if you don't believe a woman can rape/molest/take advantage of a man, you need to do some research.[/QUOTE]

    I would add;
    also, loose the schoolboy mentality that seems to consider these types of abuse of authority are OK simply because the victim is male, and In the case of school kids "they'r just being "educated" by the "hot" teacher.
     
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  19. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    And this is how all the drugs and contraban gets in the prisons.
    And we wonder why crime is so rampant and nobody is afraid to go to jail.

    Need to bring back the ball busting, gates of hell prisons, with express lines for the death penalty. Maybe then crime will go down and not continue to skyrocket.
     
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  20. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    What about the guard????:rolleyes: