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I really only said that the 5.556/.223 is uninteresting. I think it is a silly round, but it is good for hunting ground rodents. Yippee.
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I really only said that the 5.556/.223 is uninteresting. I think it is a silly round, but it is good for hunting ground rodents. Yippee.
Maybe some of them want to capitalize on selling at a high price to ignorant people, like what happened prior to the 2008 election.
"ar type rifles" are available in many calibers.....but in true form, when one asks about a carbine like 5.56 in comparison to their full size rifle....what can an ar do that your 30-06 can't? it can allow it's user to carry a lot more ammo for the weight, disperse said ammo at a faster rate, and weighs a lot less as a total package (unless you have the kitchen sink on your ar along with your garage door opener LOL).
But yeah, AR's are civilian neutered versions of a military weapon.....for the most part mass produced at the cheapest, most reliable method available. there are so many for sale on every gun forum and store because they are popular, even if they are the boy band of the firearms world
Great points everybody
A few more details on the AR vs 30-06
My 30-06 is a Remington semi auto from the late 60s
It shoots any ammo through it no questions asked
and a very high round count
Weaver scope same vintage that has been dropped, banged, rained on
and still shoots on target.
Simple setup that works
AR
This is what I am hearing and seeing
Looks from the outside like high maintanence all the this and thats on it.
ammo can be a issue all depends on the factory who builds them
Most builds have many different manufactures parts on them
How in the heck do I research all the vendors before making the investment?
Seconds blem or what ever they call them are they out there and is on the watch list?
Tech support must be tuff
What no one has brought up cleaning
the 30-06 is a bubblegum to take apart and clean
What about the AR?
In true form....that platform is an AR10. Take a look at which came first.
LOL...the original post was "ar type rifles" not specific models or calibers - I was making that point, exploiting that even though it is assumed that one is talking about 5.56x45/.223 he didn't clarify.
As for being neutered, most of us don't have the third position on our safety selectors on our civilian rifles- and have to pay extra in freedom and money for that privilege if we do. Maybe not every military variant is full auto - but a lot do burst fire. It is pretty common to say that any civilian version of a burst or auto capable weapon is a neutered version - that is all I was implying, going with a previous statement by another poster.
Maybe you should stop being so aggressive. Trying to figure out why you quoted me....
OK OK....they're not neutered, and they're not the boy band of the gun world. they're the mainstream rock band in a can.
You still have not given any kind of actual information on why the .223/5.56mm is so "silly".
I sold mine because I needed the money, times arent all that great for alot of people still, and having some available cash can sure help.
WOW...probably because I never said it was. This is why I can't figure out why you chose to quote me, and come across like I interceded with random attacks.
Until you factor the cost of the additional hundreds (or thousands) of rounds shot at nothing, just blazing away. Takes away the cheap to shoot rational.ARs are fun and cheap to shoot.
Until you factor the cost of the additional hundreds (or thousands) of rounds shot at nothing, just blazing away. Takes away the cheap to shoot rational.
You are right, I was mixing up Boats comments with yours. Please accept my apologies.
Yep, couldn't say it better myself. Fantasize all you want about killing zombies, insurgents, or whatever, and keep pulling that trigger. Rather have a good bolt gun in a decent caliber. AR's are for sissies who can't take the pain of a real caliber.
Me too, or a good lever gun with open irons. I would rather shoot 100 quality shots in a day (or should I say well aimed and accurate) As opposed to 'blazing away' with 100s or 1000s. Less time on the reloading bench also.Rather have a good bolt gun in a decent caliber