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Why is there so many AR type guns in the classifieds

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by cooldave52000, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. cooldave52000

    cooldave52000 Oregon Member

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    Seems like every week more and more AR's appear.

    Most every ad says the same thing

    Low round

    never shot

    4 boxes of ammo included

    great shooter

    I will remove the extras to lower price



    My questions:

    1. Why are so many used AR type rifles and pistols appearing in the classifieds?

    2. The asking price seems really high do they hold their value?
     
  2. optiontrigger

    optiontrigger Snohomish County, WA Member

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    Maybe some of them want to capitalize on selling at a high price to ignorant people, like what happened prior to the 2008 election.

    There are more quality AR companies now than during the previous election and some people think that if they scrape together the cheapest components and build a Franken-AR and because it looks the same, the ignorant will maybe wonder why BCM, DD, Colt are ripping people off by charging a hundred bucks more.

    It couldn't possibly be because they're built to a consistent and repeatable spec with known tolerances, high quality control for inspection and testing criteria of the quality parts of known pedigree, and lifetime warranty? Nah, that can't be it.

    When people pay a lot more than they should have, they will be the first to defend their purchase rather than admit ignorance. I'll admit that I overpaid on my first AR but I don't make excuses about it - I was an idiot for not doing my research. There are a lot more sources for learning about the AR now than before. If you have internet access, ignorance should not be an excuse.
     
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  3. Rascals

    Rascals Portland Or Active Member

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    People are trying to unload there extra stuff they bought that they didn't use much. Remember the economy is not as good as the pres tells you. You have most companies holding on to there funds becasue they have no clue as to what is going to happen with new rules and such. So they are not spending more then they want to risk. So people are getting ride of extra stuff to make ends meet. Now this is not all. Some are just trying to get money to shore up other stuff. Just take for example measure 66 and 67 here in Oregon. it came out in October of last year and was retro active so companies had to pay taxes for new taxes that they didn't know they needed to collect for 10 months of profits that was dramatically reduced. Now what if that same thing happened in the whole Country at once. I could fold allot of Companies. Things like that.
     
  4. optiontrigger

    optiontrigger Snohomish County, WA Member

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    It sounds like Oregon is getting unfriendly to businesses to keep up with Washington. So how would that tax burden on businesses affect the common folks selling their wares? WA has sales tax, OR doesn't. Does it somehow get added to your state income tax?
     
  5. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    There are something like 4 million black guns in the US... The AR is one of the most prevalent and easiest to customize... I own 5, its the only gun I have multiples of the same platform... They are just plain fun and relatively cheap to shoot.... I also think there are a lot of folks who jump in and buy and AR because they are "cool" and then in a few months see they have $1000 tied up in a gun they cant go shoot easily (Most city folks just cant go shoot and if they do its at a range where its not the same fun it is in the "real world") And want some other toy so they have to sell to move on....
     
  6. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Because there are just so many AR type rifles to begin with. Do you lump all AR types together in your counting? I wonder what the count would be like if you lumped all bolt action type rifles together.

    Asking price is just that, asking. That doesn't always reflect the actual market value of an item, whether it is a firearm, a car, or a house. Maybe the person payed $1000 for their rifle and think it should still be worth what they payed?

    A Ruger 10/22 is every day priced $199 at Bimart and Big5 has it on "sale" this week for $249.99. That's an example of the difference between "asking price" and value.
     
  7. slicediceputinrice

    slicediceputinrice SE Portland Active Member

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    because being TACTICAL is the new religion amongst shooters, and the AR is the most versatile TACTICAL TANGO DOWN MACHO MAN IMPLEMENT

    buy one, cover it in cheese grater rails, accessorize with holo sights/lasers/flashlights/garage door openers/condom dispensers AND HAVE THE ULTIMATE MOST EXPENSIVE SETUP THAT CRAPS ALL OVER EVERYONE'S PEASANT GUNS

    seeing this and realizing it, maybe some are trying to capitalize off the current trend.
     
  8. RedneckRampage

    RedneckRampage Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I think a lot of people build, and they don't work right so they try and pass them on. I know 3 or 4 people who have bought home built "one box through it" guns, and they are nothing but problems. People also don't want to loose money on their builds, and some want to make money for the time it took them to put a bunch of junk together.
     
  9. mpmax

    mpmax Woodburn Active Member

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    One of the "issues" with AR's in general is they are fun to build. You know, the 'lego' set of the gun world. I have built several just for the fun of it, then sold to build another. I sell to cover costs. If folks are trying to make a profit on these, they'd better hang on to them till November, if Obama is re-elected ... they'll be worth alot more then.
     
  10. cooldave52000

    cooldave52000 Oregon Member

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    Sounds like some are building them for profit but the real fun is building them your self.
    When I read though all extra cheese they have added it just turns me away from the ad
    Why
    Gucci fore grip
    Sears garage door opener
    Levis carry strap
    Nascar rubber wheel turner thingy
    all that tactacool means this will cost you MSRP


    This part makes me want look at new is


    I think a lot of people build, and they don't work right so they try and pass them on. I know 3 or 4 people who have bought home built "one box through it" guns, and they are nothing but problems. People also don't want to loose money on their builds, and some want to make money for the time it took them to put a bunch of junk together

    all this sounds like garage gun smithing

    The real qustion...

    What can AR do that my 30-06 rifle can't do?

    Why do I want a AR?
     
  11. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Load itself? Unless you have a BAR. If you do, can I shoot it?
     
  12. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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    Hah, the voice of reason has chimed in.

    These neutered, and usually ugly, semi-auto only civilian ARs beguile a lot of people who don't know any better until AFTER they have bought/built one. The hard truth is that neither the rifle, nor its standard cartridge, are terribly interesting.
     
  13. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    ARs are fun and cheap to shoot.I like 'em a lot.
    But my friend always looks at me funny when I don't grab one when he asks what my "go to rifle" is.

    I have a mobile 20" standard barrel and a bench rest 24" heavy barrel I won't use either for zombies.
    That's what the 308s are for

    Building them can be addictive.Too many parts and configurations to be had. I have 2 and wanted to start another but couldn't really justify it.
    Why when the 2 I have will kill all the varmints I need to kill.
    I think some guys just went way overboard with there builds and now their wants are for the new SCARs and such.
    Gotta have the latest greatest you know Maybe the prices will drop some more
     
  14. Triplebuckshot

    Triplebuckshot Northwest Oregon Member

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    Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. I personally can do LOTS of things with my AR that I can not do with my bolt action long guns. The 5.56 is a flat shooting cheap round, great for coyotes, rabbits and deer. My AR is a .308...I find the round pretty interesting since it has been used for so long. I can hunt all but the largest game on the planet easily with my AR10. I can easily clear my house or use it for home protection. I am comfortuable shooting from 5 meters to 600 meters in all sorts of positions and conditions. I have magazines that have 5 to 25 rounds of .308

    I LOVE my AR. I would choose it over my Win M70 and Rem 700 all day long. Full auto is for a a crew serve or suppresion type weapon, semi auto is where it is at. Accuracy is dang near as good as any bolt action of equal $$. A really good marksman with a different optic than my Trijicon 1-4x could hit out to 800-900 meters with my rifle.

    So there we go a quick down and dirty of why I favor my AR.

    AR10.jpg

    Tight Group.jpg
     
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  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    A guy up here had a couple buddies fix him some hand loads for his DPMS LAR308
    They wouldn't give it back cause of the accuracy.Made him sell it to them.
     
  16. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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    I still find your AR as boring as the rest of them. Nothing personal about it. Nice shift away from the silly 5.56/.223 round to discuss one I didn't even mention though.
     
  17. Toxic6

    Toxic6 Higher then a PDX hipster (~10,000 ft higher) Active Member

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    "ar type rifles" are available in many calibers.....but in true form, when one asks about a carbine like 5.56 in comparison to their full size rifle....what can an ar do that your 30-06 can't? it can allow it's user to carry a lot more ammo for the weight, disperse said ammo at a faster rate, and weighs a lot less as a total package (unless you have the kitchen sink on your ar along with your garage door opener LOL).

    But yeah, AR's are civilian neutered versions of a military weapon.....for the most part mass produced at the cheapest, most reliable method available. there are so many for sale on every gun forum and store because they are popular, even if they are the boy band of the firearms world :D
     
  18. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Silly? How cute of you. Bet that little 30-06 is just you kid's huh? You must have a 300wbymag?

    And don't carry nuttin that doesn't start with a 4?

    The 556 isn't really very good for what it was designed for,but it is very useful for what the majority of use it for.
    You'd have to be kinda silly to go PD hunting with a '06
    But that's just me.:huh:
     
  19. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Some just buy one to look cool or say they own one, similar to motorcycles. Then they realize what is involved in owning one and decide (or the wife does) to get rid of it cause all it does is sit.

    Ar's are like Glocks some like em some dont and there are infinate amounts of BS to hang on them.
     
  20. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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    I really only said that the 5.556/.223 is uninteresting. I think it is a silly round, but it is good for hunting ground rodents. Yippee.