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PM me if you are going to buy a progressive press. I can save you a few bucks.
David
David
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That detent spring shortening often accompanied with the install of a nylon ball is standard operating procedure on every progressive.Well I have a little more time to decide I guess.. I have been wanting a GP100 for about 8 years now and one of the members here put one up I just couldn't say no too... so I had to raid the progressive piggy bank for a new toy.... Man I love shooting that gun though!... Of course that has exacerbated my original problem.... I just shot in one evening 2/3rds of what it took 3 evenings to load.... this is going to be a problem
I am leaning towards the Dillon 650 mostly because of the reportedly "no muss, no fuss" reputation, but the other night I was talking to two different guys at the range that said they spent hours tweaking their 650 to get them to run right, including cutting the spring on the shell plate holder detent to keep powder from being tossed out of the cases during rotation.... that sounds like the same issues I read about with the Hornady LNL progressive.... If I am going to have to deal with tweaks no matter what, the the Hornady would be the answer because I have enough Cabela's point to buy the whole thing for under $100.... But... yeah..... now I am really confused on what to do...
I really only want to do this once is the only thing I know for sure....
Too late to be of help for you, but I use a dial caliper for returning to a powder measure setting, rather than a micrometer spindleI have a LNL AP and really like it. I went from no reloading experience to a progressive because I didn't want to start over again when I grew out of a single stage. It did have a learning curve, and it continues to this day, but if I am doing what I'm supposed to do it does it's job. Loads nice cases and I really like the bushing feature and the powder measure is pretty good. I do recommend the precision adjustment micrometer change though. It really tightened up the consistency of the powder charge. Kinda bugs me that it didn't come with it as new now that I think about it. I don't have the case loader or bullet feeder so my efficiency is down, but I don't mind loading each by hand. Kinda gives me a little more satisfaction that way. Enjoy the hunt of the reloads that fits you and your GP100!
Too late to be of help for you, but I use a dial caliper for returning to a powder measure setting, rather than a micrometer spindle
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Cheers,
Hey with the cost difference out of pocket can't argue much...however....
1)many have switched from LNL to 650 and can attest how much they are not quite the same level. Not sure I've ever heard of one switching from a 650 to LNL.
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2)I have loaded many powders through my presses including the ever complained about 800x flake powder and even weighing every case never saw over .1gn spread.
3)With the 650 you can fill the casefeed tube with 10-15 cases at a time, have your kid drop them in while you load, or even rig up a lee revolver case feed deal. Seems faster to me but real quick you will pay that $220 for the casefeeder.
5) XL 650 charges at station 2, directly in front of the operator. If you use the powder check the rod which sits right in your face tells you how close you are to your setting. Not to mention the buzzer that lets you know if it's abnormally high or low. 1050 charges at the back, maybe that's what you are thinking of.
6) Toolhead do take storage. In the reloading bench picture thread toward the end you can see my home built rack. As for powder measures I keep one powder measure with large dropper (.44 mag only for now) and the other is swapped between calibers and adjusted each time. You can save time by installing the unique tech micrometer. I'd like one but haven't pulled the handle yet.
7) I own two 650s, both operated flawlessly out of the box. Only time you do anything that changes its adjustment is if you really clean it and remove the shell plate deck, most say do so every 100,000 rounds. And Dillon will supply the tool for re-alignment, takes a couple minutes to properly align it.
Ford or Chevy...
Good that you could find/read critical info about Dillon.
I thought if you bought a Dillon you had to sign an owner's oath, like Harley owners, that you would never reveal any short comings.
that's a joke,
I've never seen any sales numbers for any reloading equipment companies, but I' willing to bet there's one (or two) that sell more stuff than all the others combined.
Alright I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were a younger fella and maybe had small kids...grandkids maybe?
Haha, I suppose there are bound to be good and bad presses rolling out of Dillon. There is no perfect press and the 650 is certainly not perfect. Like I said investment wise I can't blame you a bit. Whether or not you end up happy with the LNL and find yourself up my way sometime I'd be happy to give you a chance to load some rounds on mine.