Where do the "homeless" get their RVs and tents?

[SonicBlue03]

I'm all for airdropping boxes of fentanyl into homeless camps. Darwin.

 

[clanhanson]

I happily donated a tent and some canned goods to a father and his kid that had lost their home and couldn't afford to rent or stay in a hotel. Not all homeless are drug addled lost causes, but even the best can and do succumb to hopelessness.

 

[Alexx1401]

I happily donated a tent and some canned goods to a father and his kid that had lost their home and couldn't afford to rent or stay in a hotel. Not all homeless are drug addled lost causes, but even the best can and do succumb to hopelessness.

There is a VERY few who really do need help. Those who do have help at every corner. They also have JOBS at every corner. The "best" do not sit around and do drugs. The VAST majority of the scum calling themselves "homeless" are so by choice because they want to get high all day.

 

[clanhanson]

There is a VERY few who really do need help. Those who do have help at every corner. They also have JOBS at every corner. The "best" do not sit around and do drugs. The VAST majority of the scum calling themselves "homeless" are so by choice because they want to get high all day.

The leading cause of homelessness is a lack of affordable housing. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless, so the ~15% in the situation due to drugs is still a large number. Sure, a new shirt and pants from Goodwill might land a gas station job but that doesn't even get a person on the first rung of the American Dream's ladder when rent is more than they'd make in a month.

It's easier to look at them as a mass of greedy and lazy drug addicts, but the truth is worse. It could very easily be any one of us in their situation and we know how little sympathy we'd receive. The majority of Americans are one paycheck away from being on the street.

 

[Alexx1401]

The leading cause of homelessness is a lack of affordable housing. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless, so the ~15% in the situation due to drugs is still a large number. Sure, a new shirt and pants from Goodwill might land a gas station job but that doesn't even get a person on the first rung of the American Dream's ladder when rent is more than they'd make in a month.

There is no way in hell only 15% of the scum I see lining the street are dopers. EVERY place that becomes a "homeless" camp is strewn with trash and needles. Put these people in a place to live and they promptly trash it to the point its soon no longer habitable. EVERY person who wants help has it at their fingers. We have good paying jobs going begging right now because so few want to work to learn them. Making excuses is why "homeless" has become a HUGE money laundering operation. Look at what is spent per person and we could put every one of them in a damn nice hotel for that they spend. All this does is teach more of them they need do nothing but complain and get high. The leading cause of the scum in camps is they CHOOSE to live that way no what the propaganda tells you.

 

[SonicBlue03]

The leading cause of homelessness is a lack of affordable housing. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless, so the ~15% in the situation due to drugs is still a large number. Sure, a new shirt and pants from Goodwill might land a gas station job but that doesn't even get a person on the first rung of the American Dream's ladder when rent is more than they'd make in a month.

It's easier to look at them as a mass of greedy and lazy drug addicts, but the truth is worse. It could very easily be any one of us in their situation and we know how little sympathy we'd receive. The majority of Americans are one paycheck away from being on the street.

Curious where you pull that 15% number from.

 

[Mikej]

There is no way in hell only 15% of the scum I see lining the street are dopers.

I don't buy 15% either. I USED to think it was that kind of minority. Not with what I've witnessed in my own hood this last two years though. And every day someone is on the streets brings them one day closer to going feral.

Anyone that buys anything the city tells them would buy ocean front property in Arizona.

 

[pdxjimbo]

The leading cause of homelessness is a lack of affordable housing. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless, so the ~15% in the situation due to drugs is still a large number. Sure, a new shirt and pants from Goodwill might land a gas station job but that doesn't even get a person on the first rung of the American Dream's ladder when rent is more than they'd make in a month.

It's easier to look at them as a mass of greedy and lazy drug addicts, but the truth is worse. It could very easily be any one of us in their situation and we know how little sympathy we'd receive. The majority of Americans are one paycheck away from being on the street.

Homelessness in Seattle: What % of Unhoused are on Drugs? Homeless advocate gives number.

Andrea, a homeless advocate and non-profit founder, breaks down some statistics on the Seattle unhoused population. There is debate around what percentage of homeless are addicted to drugs, suffering from mental health, or simply out of a job. In this segment, pulled from a longer interview, Andrea shares the hard realities (and rough ESTIMATES) she has witnessed about the Seattle unhoused population in her two years working with them.

She says that 85% of the people she interacts with on the streets are on drugs.

Andrea is the founder of We Heart Seattle, a Seattle-based non-profit that cleans garbage from homeless encampments and offers resources to Seattle's unhoused populDrugs.

 

[Mikej]

Curious where you pull that 15% number from.

Somewhere that's dark and stinks.

 

[Alexx1401]

Curious where you pull that 15% number from.

You know exactly where that comes from. People who are making HUGE money off this "problem" crank out fake stats like that all the time. People who are looking to make excuses for the scum will latch onto stat's like that and throw them around even though they of course know they are not true. Anyone who want to see the truth need only walk down the street where "homeless" camp and look at them. Then try to tell themselves that for every 100 people living like that 85 of them are looking for a job and are not high all day? Right.

 

[SonicBlue03]

For people genuinely on hard times with no significant overarching dependency or mental health issues, there are plenty of supportive resources unused to help those in need who are actively seeking support. Anecdotal experience or even data, the issues of mental illness, drug abuse, a mixture of both are the dominant themes in the homeless infestations in the large urban centers and also across the nation. There are cases of abuse/neglect, etc. more prevalent amongst the minors that are on the streets which is important to address but not the core.


Michael Shellenberger gets it. If he actually manages to get enough of a groundswell in Cali and unseat King Newsom, California could be the testing ground for proper radical change in addressing the homeless scourge on the west coast.

 

[clanhanson]

You know exactly where that comes from. People who are making HUGE money off this "problem" crank out fake stats like that all the time. People who are looking to make excuses for the scum will latch onto stat's like that and throw them around even though they of course know they are not true. Anyone who want to see the truth need only walk down the street where "homeless" camp and look at them. Then try to tell themselves that for every 100 people living like that 85 of them are looking for a job and are not high all day? Right.

That stat doesn't indicate percentage of homeless actively pursuing work or percent that became involved with drugs after becoming homeless. It's merely a rough indicator of how many became homeless due to drug use. That figure varies based on geographic location, I know SAMHSA says 26%.

I personally think it's higher, but I've never done intense field study. Sadly I'm a kind soul that is eager to help my fellow American, and don't view a drug addict as sub-human.

 

[Alexx1401]

I don't buy 15% either. I USED to think it was that kind of minority. Not with what I've witnessed in my own hood this last two years though. And every day someone is on the streets brings them one day closer to going feral.

Anyone that buys anything the city tells them would buy ocean front property in Arizona.

Sadly there are two kinds of people who swallow the propaganda about this. Those who are making HUGE money off it by skimming huge cash, and the "useful idiots" who will gladly go along with anything that is some form of socialism. The voters in Potland and Seattle are finding out the real hard way what voting for this has brought them. Sadly a LOT of them keep asking for more.

 

[BBQ Guy]

There is no way in hell only 15% of the scum I see lining the street are dopers. EVERY place that becomes a "homeless" camp is strewn with trash and needles. Put these people in a place to live and they promptly trash it to the point its soon no longer habitable. EVERY person who wants help has it at their fingers. We have good paying jobs going begging right now because so few want to work to learn them. Making excuses is why "homeless" has become a HUGE money laundering operation. Look at what is spent per person and we could put every one of them in a damn nice hotel for that they spend. All this does is teach more of them they need do nothing but complain and get high. The leading cause of the scum in camps is they CHOOSE to live that way no what the propaganda tells you.

Glad i cant see who you are responding to.

From what i have seen, it is nowhere near 15%. It is likely 75% or more as quoted in another post.
The feral industry has become profitable, very profitable. Everyone from city hall to the poverty pimps are making a quick buck. If you try and chase down how and where the money goes it will lead you into a giant black hole. There is absolutely zero solid accounting where the hundreds of millions are funneled to, how they are used, and what the success rate for each dollar spent or ROI.
Any smart con man got into this grift 4-5 years ago and now is a millionaire.

 

[Mikej]

If we had elected's that had the tiniest bit of proper brain function they would have realized years ago that the longer a person is on the street, the more likely they are to sink into mental illness and drug use.

 

[Alexx1401]

Glad i cant see who you are responding to.

From what i have seen, it is nowhere near 15%. It is likely 75% or more as quoted in another post.
The feral industry has become profitable, very profitable. Everyone from city hall to the poverty pimps are making a quick buck. If you try and chase down how and where the money goes it will lead you into a giant black hole. There is absolutely zero solid accounting where the hundreds of millions are funneled to, how they are used, and what the success rate for each dollar spent or ROI.
Any smart con man got into this grift 4-5 years ago and now is a millionaire.

Its both super angering and sad at the same time. The people making huge bank of this do it by duping a LOT of people who really do want to help. Make a HUGE mess. Then run for re election on the promise to clean up the mess you made. Solution of course tons of cash. So people who watch the place become a sewer then vote for the people who are going to "fix it". Those who are "fixing it" do one thing VERY well. They make HUGE piles of cash vanish.

 

[Mikej]

Its both super angering and sad at the same time. The people making huge bank of this do it by duping a LOT of people who really do want to help. Make a HUGE mess. Then run for re election on the promise to clean up the mess you made. Solution of course tons of cash. So people who watch the place become a sewer then vote for the people who are going to "fix it". Those who are "fixing it" do one thing VERY well. They make HUGE piles of cash vanish.

These political ads....The same party, claiming they'll fix the same issues, that their predecessors claimed they'd fix, two, four, six and eight years ago. I wonder how many of the homeless vote?

 

[BBQ Guy]

Its both super angering and sad at the same time. The people making huge bank of this do it by duping a LOT of people who really do want to help. Make a HUGE mess. Then run for re election on the promise to clean up the mess you made. Solution of course tons of cash. So people who watch the place become a sewer then vote for the people who are going to "fix it". Those who are "fixing it" do one thing VERY well. They make HUGE piles of cash vanish.

Therein lies the problem....
You cannot depend on the people who created the problem to fix the problem, especially when it is the government or elected officials.
We will be in this continuous loop until every single elected official that has touched this issue is wiped from their position.

 

[Aero Denezol]

All I know is there used to be a handful of homeless in Salem and now there are thousands. Sections of downtown Salem now smell like the Lower East Side of Manhattan.

Slow clap for all the "compassionate" f morons in the community that allowed this to happen. They should allow the homeless to camp on their own property, see how they like it.

 

[Alexx1401]

All I know is there used to be a handful of homeless in Salem and now there are thousands. Sections of downtown Salem now smell like the Lower East Side of Manhattan.

Slow clap for all the "compassionate" f morons in the community that allowed this to happen. They should allow the homeless to camp on their own property, see how they like it.

Anyone who looks can of course see NONE of the "champions" of this offer to let them live with them. Or even camp on their lawn. Wife was pointing out the other day a homeless guy pulling a train of shopping carts he had lashed together. Piled with "stuff". She mentioned one local group had people saying the stores complaining about the theft of carts should just "give them away". I said the people saying that should step up and PAY for those carts they want "given away". Instead we all pay for it with the price passed on to us.