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What If? EAS SYSTEM Scenerio:

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by kenno, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. kenno

    kenno eastern WA Active Member

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    This ability to shut down america's TV, cable and radio system was put in place in 1994, why test it now?
    This power lies in the hands of one man, Obama, the same man that says it is important for him to have the ability to shutdown the internet (and by "going around congress" he can do just that). The law is written so that the public airwaves can be shut down indefinately.
    So here is the scenerio:
    It is mid-day, mid-week, you are following the election coverage as you drive home from work on your car radio, the radio signal fails and static is all that comes from the other channels you try. you get home turn on the TV, static no signal at all. You fire up the computer but all servers are down as is your cell phone. Using your land line you call your neighbor, same story. You call family 1000's of miles away, same story.
    The next morning you receive a call that work is canceled becuse the internet is down. You drive to Costco but there is a traffic jam 1 mile long, Costco, as all stores, is closed, no internet connection.
    The next day there is still no word as to why all communcations are down, you try Costco again, Costco is open but there is a huge line of cars and armed private security directing traffic. Large signs say CASH ONLY.

    Four days into the Communication Failure teens and women start displaying "Cellless Syndrome" standing in a trance like state repeatedly trying to "dial-out" untill they collapse, sobbing or enter a catatonic state. Schools are closed, hospitals are turning away all but the severaly injured and ill.
    At night you can hear gunfire and see the glow of fires, Police and County vechicles roam the streets with loud speakers announcing Martial Law with a dusk to dawn curfew and that residents must stay in thier homes.
    On the 5th day your area loses water,cruising county vechicles warn you that it is a federal offense to capture rain water.
    What is your course of action?

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Federal Communications Commission will conduct the first-ever national test of the Emergency Alert System, where radio and televised broadcasts across the country will be disrupted for roughly…three-and-half minutes:

    “In essence, the authority to seize control of all television and civilian communication has been asserted by the executive branch and handed to a government agency,” wrote Buck Sexton
    During the upcoming test, an audio message will likely recite, “this is a test” while text at the top of the screen might read that an “Emergency Alert Notification has been issued.”

    While emergency broadcast tests are typically used by state and local governments to issue severe weather alerts and other emergency information, there has never been a nationwide activation of the system before. Federal agencies cite the reasons for the national test are to ensure emergency preparedness and to pinpoint flaws in the new EAS system.

    Meanwhile, the thought of the nation’s broadcast systems being completely cut off for nearly four minutes — in addition to broadcasters being stripped of control — has left many, including Glenn Beck, feeling unsettled over who, exactly, will have power over our airwaves.

    When speaking about the old EBS tests, Glenn said that it “didn’t take control away from the broadcaster.” The new system, however, “seizes control of the broadcast frequency.”

    If the state (obama) wants to take control…they can just take it and there is nothing we can do about it

    I have a few questions:
    Why mid day on a wednesday? Why not not Midnight? Why not midnight on sunday?
     
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  2. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Stay home. I am good to go. Sure I could use more stuff, we all could but I would be fine for a long time.

    As for communications just remember there is still plenty of people with analog radios be it ham or CB for local communications. Good things to have handy just in case....... They were the communication tools people used before cell phones and internet.
     
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  3. knuckle Head

    knuckle Head southeast Well-Known Member

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    Glenn Beck asked the same question, why in the middle of the afternoon and not at 2am Sunday.

    I am not worried, I live 4 miles from work.
     
  4. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    Stand by for a PSA (police state America)
     
  5. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    I am very concerned about this it would have the effect of a nationwide EMP, there would be panick and a general anti-american uprising (as if it were planned that way)
    Essentialy, fort the person on the ground it would much like "The Trigger Effect"
     
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    Headspace Seattle New Member

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  7. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    There are also enough people with satellite dish service that originates from another country. I once met a Filipino lady who had a dish on her roof so that she could get channels from the Philippines. I've known two different people who had satellite service from Poland, and then the even more important for those of us who live in the northern part of the US - Canada. We would be able to pickup same signals from Canada - unless it was being jammed.
    We also have the printed news. I think even the NYT would flip out if something like that was being attempted.
     
  8. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    Would resistance by american citizens be maditory, and at what point in time, what trips the hammer?
     
  9. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I would not worry about any bold moves like that. The people who pull the strings like to work behind the scenes and in the shadows. They do not want to cause any big upheavals as those would lead to their doom. When you get the upheavals it is because they have miscalculated, not planned them.
     
  10. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    So it's still the frog in the pot of warm water?
     
  11. t.huynh

    t.huynh vancouver, wa Active Member

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    Wait a minute. We're not allowed to collect rainwater in Washington?
     
  12. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I thought that was just city of Seattle. Is it the whole state?.
     
  13. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    shoot there is enough rainwater for all, why is there a ban on that? lol
     
  14. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I remember hearing about it about 3 or 4 years ago. I think they want you to get a permit if you want to do it - so it's about getting your money.
     
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    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    I don't think it happened in Washington or Oregon did it?! that would be stupid since we get so much rain, if so you are probably spot on, it was all for the money. I know that happened in Colorado because it was taking away water from the Col. river but they have since changed it back.

    Either way I wouldn't put it past either states government to do something like that.
     
  16. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Thats right. And to this, I say unto the State "if you don't want me to collect it, keep it off my property".

    I store rainwater in a pair of 1100gal underground concrete tanks (never-used tanks designed for septic) and pump it out as necessary to irrigate my garden, thus saving my well.
     
  17. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    seriously?? RCW??
     
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    supergenius 206 Active Member

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    Driving by the FEMA outpost on 228th in Bothell, I figured bubblegum, migh as well bury a pair of bolt cutters on the JUST on the outside of the fence somewhere LOL
     
  19. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    NaturalNews) Many of the freedoms we enjoy here in the U.S. are quickly eroding as the nation transforms from the land of the free into the land of the enslaved, but what I'm about to share with you takes the assault on our freedoms to a whole new level. You may not be aware of this, but many Western states, including Utah, Washington and Colorado, have long outlawed individuals from collecting rainwater on their own properties because, according to officials, that rain belongs to someone else.

    As bizarre as it sounds, laws restricting property owners from "diverting" water that falls on their own homes and land have been on the books for quite some time in many Western states. Only recently, as droughts and renewed interest in water conservation methods have become more common, have individuals and business owners started butting heads with law enforcement over the practice of collecting rainwater for personal use.

    Check out this YouTube video of a news report out of Salt Lake City, Utah, about the issue. It's illegal in Utah to divert rainwater without a valid water right, and Mark Miller of Mark Miller Toyota, found this out the hard way.

    After constructing a large rainwater collection system at his new dealership to use for washing new cars, Miller found out that the project was actually an "unlawful diversion of rainwater." Even though it makes logical conservation sense to collect rainwater for this type of use since rain is scarce in Utah, it's still considered a violation of water rights which apparently belong exclusively to Utah's various government bodies.

    "Utah's the second driest state in the nation. Our laws probably ought to catch up with that," explained Miller in response to the state's ridiculous rainwater collection ban.

    Salt Lake City officials worked out a compromise with Miller and are now permitting him to use "their" rainwater, but the fact that individuals like Miller don't actually own the rainwater that falls on their property is a true indicator of what little freedom we actually have here in the U.S. (Access to the rainwater that falls on your own property seems to be a basic right, wouldn't you agree?)


    Outlawing rainwater collection in other states
    Utah isn't the only state with rainwater collection bans, either. Colorado and Washington also have rainwater collection restrictions that limit the free use of rainwater, but these restrictions vary among different areas of the states and legislators have passed some laws to help ease the restrictions.

    In Colorado, two new laws were recently passed that exempt certain small-scale rainwater collection systems, like the kind people might install on their homes, from collection restrictions.

    Prior to the passage of these laws, Douglas County, Colorado, conducted a study on how rainwater collection affects aquifer and groundwater supplies. The study revealed that letting people collect rainwater on their properties actually reduces demand from water facilities and improves conservation.

    Personally, I don't think a study was even necessary to come to this obvious conclusion. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that using rainwater instead of tap water is a smart and useful way to conserve this valuable resource, especially in areas like the West where drought is a major concern.

    Additionally, the study revealed that only about three percent of Douglas County's precipitation ended up in the streams and rivers that are supposedly being robbed from by rainwater collectors. The other 97 percent either evaporated or seeped into the ground to be used by plants.

    This hints at why bureaucrats can't really use the argument that collecting rainwater prevents that water from getting to where it was intended to go. So little of it actually makes it to the final destination that virtually every household could collect many rain barrels worth of rainwater and it would have practically no effect on the amount that ends up in streams and rivers.


    It's all about control, really
    As long as people remain unaware and uninformed about important issues, the government will continue to chip away at the freedoms we enjoy. The only reason these water restrictions are finally starting to change for the better is because people started to notice and they worked to do something to reverse the law.

    Even though these laws restricting water collection have been on the books for more than 100 years in some cases, they're slowly being reversed thanks to efforts by citizens who have decided that enough is enough.

    Because if we can't even freely collect the rain that falls all around us, then what, exactly, can we freely do? The rainwater issue highlights a serious overall problem in America today: diminishing freedom and increased government control.

    Today, we've basically been reprogrammed to think that we need permission from the government to exercise our inalienable rights, when in fact the government is supposed to derive its power from us. The American Republic was designed so that government would serve the People to protect and uphold freedom and liberty. But increasingly, our own government is restricting people from their rights to engage in commonsense, fundamental actions such as collecting rainwater or buying raw milk from the farmer next door.

    Today, we are living under a government that has slowly siphoned off our freedoms, only to occasionally grant us back a few limited ones under the pretense that they're doing us a benevolent favor.


    Fight back against enslavement
    As long as people believe their rights stem from the government (and not the other way around), they will always be enslaved. And whatever rights and freedoms we think we still have will be quickly eroded by a system of bureaucratic power that seeks only to expand its control.

    Because the same argument that's now being used to restrict rainwater collection could, of course, be used to declare that you have no right to the air you breathe, either. After all, governments could declare that air to be somebody else's air, and then they could charge you an "air tax" or an "air royalty" and demand you pay money for every breath that keeps you alive.

    Think it couldn't happen? Just give it time. The government already claims it owns your land and house, effectively. If you really think you own your home, just stop paying property taxes and see how long you still "own" it. Your county or city will seize it and then sell it to pay off your "tax debt." That proves who really owns it in the first place... and it's not you!

    How about the question of who owns your body? According to the U.S. Patent & Trademark office, U.S. corporations and universities already own 20% of your genetic code. Your own body, they claim, is partially the property of someone else.

    So if they own your land, your water and your body, how long before they claim to own your air, your mind and even your soul?

    Unless we stand up against this tyranny, it will creep upon us, day after day, until we find ourselves totally enslaved by a world of corporate-government collusion where everything of value is owned by powerful corporations -- all enforced at gunpoint by local law enforcement.

    Learn more: Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water

    This all comes from UN Agenda 21 whose ultimate plan is to turn the US into a nature preserve
     
  20. powersbj

    powersbj Seattle Area Active Member

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    This bubblegum is funny... The big evil puppet masters who have managed to con the whole world are gonna turn off your radio tv and water... Why??? If they have already have the whole planet hoodwinked why not let it ride?

    On the other hand if they turn off my water, time to leave.