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I read that 3 or 4 times and still have no clue.
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My son learned in grade school that no parent could touch a child.
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Amy Garrett: Portland woman 'held at gunpoint by two boys aged 7 and 11 in attempted carjacking' | Mail Online
‘...they took my statement while they had the 11yr old in the back of the cop car and he was kicking the car. The cop told me that the kid was acting like a 40yr old heroin addict."
I guess it couldn't be the people they hang out with like the type of people that stand around voting places with night sticks (black panthers for example) and their kids. but then I said you were right it's the parents fault just not the parents of the 11 & 7 year old but the parents of the kids that they hang out with. is that any easier to understand?
No. Not really.
I am curious to what you guys think; if a young kid came up to you at gun point, would you use deadly force to stop him? I am unsure what I would have done in that situation.
The day, upon returning home from work, windows were broken, doors were kicked in, dishes were broke, etc. I called the police to make a report. Son admitted to it. Nothing happened.
6th? 7th? grade...... he came home and said "guess what I learned in school today?"
"I don't know. What?"
"I learned that if an adult touches us we can call the police and have them arrested."
"REALLY? Are you sure that is what they said?"
"Yes. We were told that if an adult touches you that is child abuse and they can go to jail. So, if you touch me I can call the police and have you thrown in jail."
Later in life he got in my face, nose-to-nose cursing me out because of _____________ (I am learning that it is MY fault for his behavior). Then he decided that he was going to head-butt me. I slapped him once, open hand, and he hit the ground.
He grabbed the phone and called the police.
When they arrived I was handcuffed because there was a "report that the dad abuse the child". After his ranting that I am an SOB and am going to jail. After the officers taked with both of us the handcuffs were removed and I was told that I was very lucky that I only hit him once with an open hand. Any more and I'd be hauled off for child abuse.
Son pulled aside and had a talking to. When he found out that I was NOT going to jail he ran inside and slammed the door - locking the door behind him. The police left once I got back inside. When I got back inside he was gone.
The day, upon returning home from work, windows were broken, doors were kicked in, dishes were broke, etc. I called the police to make a report. Son admitted to it. Nothing happened.
I guess you are right, it was my fault. Looking back on it, it was us parents' fault. Not his, all our fault.
Could something else could have been done? Of course there could have. Something else could always be done. Could it have been the childs fault - or society, laws, etc.?
Step-sons did similar type things. Fortunately I was able to divorce my way out. Once they learn that they can F with you and suffer no consequences, it's over. You really have no recourse.
I am curious to what you guys think; if a young kid came up to you at gun point, would you use deadly force to stop him? I am unsure what I would have done in that situation.
I believe I would.
How do you propose this be accomplished ? Raise taxes to pay for more jails, prisons, officers, courts, attorneys ? Then increase the size of government further to manage that increased sector of government ? Maybe abolish 'Procedural Due Process' as practiced in this country ?
I hear what you are saying. I just would like to hear your plan for accomplishing this, not in one individual case, but in the case of society as a whole. Do you have a plan ?
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Almost everyone here blaming on the parents why dont we blame on the GOV? They stick their foot in every family business. I love my boy very much, he is my life and my evrything. Kid sometime need to be punish, spanks in the butt sometime to tell them they did serious mistakes. Our lovely GOV are not letting the parents to have free freedom of punishing the kids when they make major mistake, they will never able to learn from wrong or right. A lot of us here got spanks when we were kid but we didnt turn out mess up.
Consider yourself lucky. A really good friend of over 20 years (and the most stable personality you could imagine) had to restrain his 17yo stepson who was in the process of destroying their house. When words didn't work he placed his forearm across junior's chest and backed him against the wall. Junior slid down to turn the restraint into a "strangle hold" then ran outside to call the cops. Guess who went to jail, was suspended and demoted at work, and was kept away from his family and his home by court order? Yup, the same guy who spent thousands to bail himself out and hire a lawyer to get it plead down in order to avoid prison time. The same guy who is now a felon in spite of having witnesses (wife and other stepson) to the contrary. That's why we call it the legal system instead of the justice system. Sometimes bad parenting is to blame. Sometimes it isn't. There's a lot of kids out there from good homes with a pretty twisted sense of entitlement.Step-sons did similar type things. Fortunately I was able to divorce my way out. Once they learn that they can F with you and suffer no consequences, it's over. You really have no recourse.
I am curious to what you guys think; if a young kid came up to you at gun point, would you use deadly force to stop him? I am unsure what I would have done in that situation.