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I think that was the Weaver case where Lon Whore-uci needed to shoot Weaver's wife in the face while she was holding her baby. All for about 1/8"....or soBear in mind, a bunch of people got burned down in Waco essentially because of a sawed off shotgun. Or the story goes anyway...........
"Shockwave" it, maybe lop a little more off the barrel and call it a day.
I think that was the Weaver case where Lon Whore-uci needed to shoot Weaver's wife in the face while she was holding her baby. All for about 1/8"....or so
That would be a no no.
Once a rifle or shotgun always a rifle or shotgun.
Same with converting an ar15 rifle into a pistol, not legal.
Can't do that legally. It can never have been a shotgun or pistol or rifle. Has to come from the factory that way. From what I gather it was already short enough to be a 'firearm'.
As a side note, I find it interesting that the Mossberg Shockwaves have no markings on them denoting that they are a 'Shockwave' - the markings are the same as a shotgun. I guess they go by the serial number, which might make it hard to prove (or disprove) it is a 'firearm'. I don't know how the Tac-14s are marked.
Just think about the bastard who pawned said item. The loop will connect.
I saw a sawed offed shotgun turned in at a gun buy back a few years ago and the local police didn't say a word, just checked to see if it was empty and the guy received his Fred Meyers gift card.
I talked to the guy on his way into the event and he told me that he was a retired LEO and had taken it off a bad guy and had hung onto it for over twenty years.
He was moving out of state and decided that he would cash in on it instead of cutting it up.
$120 for a transfer?! WTF?
My great grandfather LA county sheriff deputy had quite the gun collection on his wall. Sawed off's , machine guns etc. . He had the only Schnellfeuer Mauser Ive ever seen. First machine gun I ever shot in fact in the hills of Los Angeles when I was 7 or 8. Dozens of guns, hundred of switchblades all over the walls. Every one confiscated at some point during a long career. Thats how it was back in the day. When he died his cop buddies came and cleared the place out leaving barely a crumb. Only thing they left was a Remington Derringer and a 1848 Colt . I have both.
My dealings with the ATF have always been positive. When i had on 02/07 they were always there to help.
OMG, a cop that did something illegal? Say it isn't so.....
Amazing that the feds are so flexible. But what .410 barrel extension runs almost 3"!
I did buy a compact 9mm from the same guy for $50.00. The pistol had been in the bottom of a fishing boat and the slide was rusted shut. He did say that it was loaded and to be careful trying to get the action open.
I can't remember what the name of it was, but you had to load the ammo through the top, as it didn't have a detachable magazine.
I think it was an early model Kahr, but I could be wrong on that. I sold it to guy who collected them and wanted it for parts.
I used the battery charger and super soda wash to free up the action and sure enough it was loaded with ammo.
From what I've heard the ATF is chronically understaffed and underfunded, This particular ATF agent might simply have better things to do, then go after a individual who bought a firearm in good faith... Might be a bad sign for the Pawnshop though...
I feel that a beer offer in exchange for inconvenience is totally appropriate and should be more widely acceptable.So have I! That's so far out of line. I'm pretty sure I would have apologized to the seller and told him I could not abide by that. If we couldn't find another FFL convenient to him I'd have bought him a beer.