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Portland Sgt. Kyle Nice under investigation for pulling gun and allegedly flipping off another motorist in Washington County
By Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
April 06, 2010, 4:13PM
Portland police are investigating an off-duty traffic confrontation involving Portland Sgt. Kyle Nice, one of the officers disciplined in the James P. Chasse Jr. death in custody case, and another motorist, who says Nice flipped him off in traffic and later unholstered his gun during their encounter.
The incident occurred about 2:47 p.m. on Saturday in Washington County. Washington County sheriff's deputy responded to Southwest 80th Avenue and Oleson Road on a menacing call. No one was cited, and now Portland police are conducting an internal inquiry.
The accounts of the two motorists significantly differ, but one independent witness who lived near where the altercation occurred told police that Nice seemed to be the more aggressive one of the two motorists.
When the sheriff's deputy arrived, he found Nice standing beside his two-door Chevy pickup truck, holding up his police identification. The other motorist was in his vehicle.
According to motorist Neil Ruffin, 34, he saw Nice's pickup truck pull up really close to him at Southwest Garden Home and Oleson Road. The motorist, he said, honked his horn at him, looked over and was "flipping him off" and mouthing an expletive at him, before driving on.
According to Nice, he said Ruffin had run a red light going east on Southwest Allen Boulevard at Scholls Ferry Road, and almost hit his truck. He said his six-week old child was riding with him. Nice said he caught up with Ruffin at the Southwest Garden Home intersection with Oleson and rolled down his window.
Nice, 42, says he raised his thumb and told Ruffin, "Nice, thanks for almost hitting me back there.''
Ruffin said he pulled behind Nice to try and get him to pull over because he didn't understand what he had done. Nice drove to Southwest 80th Avenue, and Ruffin followed him in his 1996 BMW. At one point, Ruffin said he signaled he was pulling over, and Nice did too.
Ruffin said he opened his door but before he got out saw Nice standing behind his truck with a pistol out. He said Nice had the pistol close to his left side, but the barrel was pointed at him, and Nice was yelling at him. He said Nice was saying, "You (expletive) can't drive you (expletives).''
Nice said he pulled over because he did not want Ruffin following him home and was not sure what kind of person he was. Nice said he got out of his truck and walked toward the BMW, which pulled behind him. He said he couldn't see what Ruffin was doing or see his hands so he drew his pistol and put it to his side, not aiming at Ruffin at any time. Nice said he told Ruffin, "You don't need to be following me.''
Ruffin called he called 9-1-1 because he didn't know if Nice was "crazy or what.'' After dialing the number, Ruffin said he looked up and saw Nice holding his police identification. He said Nice told him, "Go ahead and call the police.'' Ruffin told the dispatcher to have the police hurry up because he wasn't sure if Nice was going to shoot him or not.
The sheriff's deputy advised both drivers that following another "to make sure you get a chance to say your peace (sic)" is not the smartest thing to do.''
Independent witness Elizabeth Johnston said she drove past the two and pulled into her driveway. She said she heard some yelling and saw Nice reach for what looked like a gun and hold it to his side.
Our deputy felt it did not rise to the level of a crime, said Washington Sgt. Dave Thompson, explaining why neither motorist faced menacing charges. The deputy felt the officer was justified in pulling his gun out. There was a dispute as to whether or not he pointed it at Ruffin, and the independent witness said he didnt.
The deputy felt Nice was justified for pulling the firearm, and keeping it ready, considering he was concerned about the well-being of his young child and himself, Thompson said.
As for whether or not Nice flipped off Ruffin at the start, Thompson said it was a matter of two completely different accounts. Whether or not he flipped him off or gave him a thumbs up, is not critical. It's not a crime. It appears both of them got angry. We dont have to decide whether or not Nice made good or bad decisions. Thatll be the role of the Portland police bureau.
Portland Officer Thomas Brennan, who had raised concerns to his precinct commander last October after he said the sergeant grossly overreacted on a call to move along two homeless men playing music outside Hubers Restaurant, contends he was punished instead, becoming the first uniformed officer to be transferred to work in the property evidence warehouse.
I received a lot of grief because I let supervisors know this guy was a loose cannon , Brennan said Tuesday. Supervisors told me his oil levels were being monitored, and his oil levels were fine and to mind my own business. Instead of fixing the problem, they fix the blame.
Nice was one of the officers involved in the Sept. 17, 2006 police struggle with James P. Chasse Jr., a 42-year-old man who suffered from schizophrenia and later died in police custody. In November 2009, police commissioner Dan Saltzman recommended Nice and fellow transit Officer Christopher Humphreys each be suspended without pay for 80 hours for failing to have Chasse transported by ambulance to a hospital, both before and after he was taken to jail
http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2010/04/portland_sgt_kyle_nice_under_i.html
By Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
April 06, 2010, 4:13PM
Portland police are investigating an off-duty traffic confrontation involving Portland Sgt. Kyle Nice, one of the officers disciplined in the James P. Chasse Jr. death in custody case, and another motorist, who says Nice flipped him off in traffic and later unholstered his gun during their encounter.
The incident occurred about 2:47 p.m. on Saturday in Washington County. Washington County sheriff's deputy responded to Southwest 80th Avenue and Oleson Road on a menacing call. No one was cited, and now Portland police are conducting an internal inquiry.
The accounts of the two motorists significantly differ, but one independent witness who lived near where the altercation occurred told police that Nice seemed to be the more aggressive one of the two motorists.
When the sheriff's deputy arrived, he found Nice standing beside his two-door Chevy pickup truck, holding up his police identification. The other motorist was in his vehicle.
According to motorist Neil Ruffin, 34, he saw Nice's pickup truck pull up really close to him at Southwest Garden Home and Oleson Road. The motorist, he said, honked his horn at him, looked over and was "flipping him off" and mouthing an expletive at him, before driving on.
According to Nice, he said Ruffin had run a red light going east on Southwest Allen Boulevard at Scholls Ferry Road, and almost hit his truck. He said his six-week old child was riding with him. Nice said he caught up with Ruffin at the Southwest Garden Home intersection with Oleson and rolled down his window.
Nice, 42, says he raised his thumb and told Ruffin, "Nice, thanks for almost hitting me back there.''
Ruffin said he pulled behind Nice to try and get him to pull over because he didn't understand what he had done. Nice drove to Southwest 80th Avenue, and Ruffin followed him in his 1996 BMW. At one point, Ruffin said he signaled he was pulling over, and Nice did too.
Ruffin said he opened his door but before he got out saw Nice standing behind his truck with a pistol out. He said Nice had the pistol close to his left side, but the barrel was pointed at him, and Nice was yelling at him. He said Nice was saying, "You (expletive) can't drive you (expletives).''
Nice said he pulled over because he did not want Ruffin following him home and was not sure what kind of person he was. Nice said he got out of his truck and walked toward the BMW, which pulled behind him. He said he couldn't see what Ruffin was doing or see his hands so he drew his pistol and put it to his side, not aiming at Ruffin at any time. Nice said he told Ruffin, "You don't need to be following me.''
Ruffin called he called 9-1-1 because he didn't know if Nice was "crazy or what.'' After dialing the number, Ruffin said he looked up and saw Nice holding his police identification. He said Nice told him, "Go ahead and call the police.'' Ruffin told the dispatcher to have the police hurry up because he wasn't sure if Nice was going to shoot him or not.
The sheriff's deputy advised both drivers that following another "to make sure you get a chance to say your peace (sic)" is not the smartest thing to do.''
Independent witness Elizabeth Johnston said she drove past the two and pulled into her driveway. She said she heard some yelling and saw Nice reach for what looked like a gun and hold it to his side.
Our deputy felt it did not rise to the level of a crime, said Washington Sgt. Dave Thompson, explaining why neither motorist faced menacing charges. The deputy felt the officer was justified in pulling his gun out. There was a dispute as to whether or not he pointed it at Ruffin, and the independent witness said he didnt.
The deputy felt Nice was justified for pulling the firearm, and keeping it ready, considering he was concerned about the well-being of his young child and himself, Thompson said.
As for whether or not Nice flipped off Ruffin at the start, Thompson said it was a matter of two completely different accounts. Whether or not he flipped him off or gave him a thumbs up, is not critical. It's not a crime. It appears both of them got angry. We dont have to decide whether or not Nice made good or bad decisions. Thatll be the role of the Portland police bureau.
Portland Officer Thomas Brennan, who had raised concerns to his precinct commander last October after he said the sergeant grossly overreacted on a call to move along two homeless men playing music outside Hubers Restaurant, contends he was punished instead, becoming the first uniformed officer to be transferred to work in the property evidence warehouse.
I received a lot of grief because I let supervisors know this guy was a loose cannon , Brennan said Tuesday. Supervisors told me his oil levels were being monitored, and his oil levels were fine and to mind my own business. Instead of fixing the problem, they fix the blame.
Nice was one of the officers involved in the Sept. 17, 2006 police struggle with James P. Chasse Jr., a 42-year-old man who suffered from schizophrenia and later died in police custody. In November 2009, police commissioner Dan Saltzman recommended Nice and fellow transit Officer Christopher Humphreys each be suspended without pay for 80 hours for failing to have Chasse transported by ambulance to a hospital, both before and after he was taken to jail
http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2010/04/portland_sgt_kyle_nice_under_i.html