Russian SU 35 shot down over Ukraine by Vietnam era SA 11 SAM missiles

[rjmt]

I was at Ramstein in Germany in 1971 when the SA 11 were deployed into East Germany
my friends in electronic counter measures told me about their evaluation of this system over beers
scared the USAF to death at the time

but this is 2022 - a Russian SU 35s Flanker E SAM suppression aircraft was shot down by a '70 era SAM system used by Ukraine

the SU 35S is equipped with detection and jamming systems to handle any modern MANPAD or SAM system

but somehow, it was not equipped to counter a Vietnam era SA 11?

First Russian Su-35S Flanker-E Confirmed Destroyed In Ukraine

The Su-35S crashed near Izium, Ukraine. It looks like it was configured for SEAD (Suppression Enemy Air Defenses) mission. Images of the wreckage of an

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[DirectDrive]

Quite a feat when you can kill the radar hunter.

 

[rjmt]

Quite a feat when you can kill the radar hunter.

when the first USAF countermeasure officer was told what the goal of the Wild Weasels was in Vietnam, his comment became the unit patch:

" YOU GOT TO BE SH---ING ME"

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"My husband loves it. He was a Wild Weasel. Wild Weasels are the "First in, Last out" of the target area. Their mision is SEAD (Supression of Enemy Air Defenses). They attempt to find and kill the radar SAMS (Surface-to-Air-Missiles) before the vulnerable strike aircraft arrive.

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when the first USAF countermeasure officer was told what the goal of the Wild Weasels was in Vietnam, his comment became the unit patch:

" YOU GOT TO BE SH---ING ME"

USAF Wild Weasel YGBSM patch US seller F-100 F-105 F-4 F-16 SAM ECM Vietnam | eBay

"My husband loves it. He was a Wild Weasel. Wild Weasels are the "First in, Last out" of the target area. Their mision is SEAD (Supression of Enemy Air Defenses). They attempt to find and kill the radar SAMS (Surface-to-Air-Missiles) before the vulnerable strike aircraft arrive.

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Those guys had brass ones.

 

[rjmt]

Those guys has brass ones.

my father was with the B-52s during Arc Light and Rolling Thunder

he died of old age at 80 due to the efforts of the Wild Weasels

 

[DirectDrive]

my father was with the B-52s during Arc Light and Rolling Thunder

he died of old age at 80 due to the efforts of the Wild Weasels

I was a kid watching some of those BUFF's fly out of Westover AFB

 

[bionic knees]

Boris will not be happy!

 

[rjmt]

I was a kid watching some of those BUFF's fly out of Westover AFB

we lived in Riverside, Ca from '65 to '68

my father's unit was assigned to March but was deployed to Vietnam

my mother was one of the wives who went to the homes when a B-52 went down

the Blue Sedans - they were called - when a wife saw a Blue sedan with my mother in it - they knew news was not good

my father's squadron lost 40% of their crews in '68 due to SA 2 SAMs

 

[DirectDrive]

Vlad the Mad

 

[American123]

Not surprising considering a lot of modern tech is aimed at stopping other modern tech, that's also assuming the Russian tech didn't experience a malfunction, which from my reading indicates it can happen often.

Reminds me of the naval war games where a US Navy (rank?) beat the crap out of big navy while pretending to be Iran because he didn't fight big navy in a conventional big navy type fight, he used a bunch of simple small attack craft like suicide bombs to take out the carriers (the whole backbone of US navy attack structure).

The enemy doesn't have to fight you the way you plan them too.

 

[nehalemguy]

Quite a feat when you can kill the radar hunter.

Is that perhaps insight into how well the Russian crews are trained? Or not trained?

-E-

 

[DirectDrive]

Is that perhaps insight into how well the Russian crews are trained? Or not trained?

-E-

Could have been that the Russian jamming tech was optimized for current SAM threats and the old school SAMs were able to slip through.
Or just a lucky shot like the one on the F-117 by the Serbians.

It has been publicized that the Russian air crews don't get near the flight time that ours do.
So, no telling what it was other than a good kill for the Ukes.