National Pistol Brace rule Dropped!

[wired]

Did you give you a window to upload photos of it?

-E-

Yeah, its under the gun certification page

 

[wired]

Not sure where you learned to read, but what is says is:

"If the firearm is a personally made firearm, the possessor must mark in accordance with 27 CFR 478,92 & 479.102 prior to submitting the E-Form 1."

Thats if its a PMF . Otherwise manufacturer markings suffice.

 

[wired]

Have you decided what stock to add when you get the paperwork back?

I dont know yet. I have some nice folders. Maybe even an underfolder.

 

[wired]

So I filed like normal but I have not received a cover letter or any verification by email

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Exactly the same way this brace rule played out. Except we will have a group of people with engraved SBRs and a group without engraved SBRs. Someone will start complaining or asking the AFT for clarification. Then, what was once legal will need a rule clarification and we will be having the same discussion about engravings and illegal SBRs...

 

[nehalemguy]

So I filed like normal but I have not received a cover letter or any verification by email

Probably because the system has already crashed from number of submissions.

-E-

 

[Yarome]

Thats if its a PMF . Otherwise manufacturer markings suffice.

Correct! Sooo.. since the question was if it had to be engraved/serialized.... the answer would be??

 

[Local Loader]

Here's a question that might have already been answered but, does this apply to pistol calibers as well? i.e. 9mm, 38, 357, 40, 10mm and 45.

 

[wired]

Correct! Sooo.. since the question was if it had to be engraved/serialized.... the answer would be??

Sometimes....

 

[wired]

Here's a question that might have already been answered but, does this apply to pistol calibers as well? i.e. 9mm, 38, 357, 40, 10mm and 45.

Of course

 

[wired]

Probably because the system has already crashed from number of submissions.

-E-

Oh yeah. I submitted and it cleared but now its showing as a draft and I cant bring it up. Its gonna get bad,.

 

[Ginocide]

Price of stocks will be going up in the next few days.

More like the time to process anything NFA will completely explode. Kiss even one year completions goodbye, we'll be lucky to get them in half a decade.

 

[nehalemguy]

Correct! Sooo.. since the question was if it had to be engraved/serialized.... the answer would be??

Ok, now you're starting to even annoy me with the re-directs.

The question was if the SBR had to be engraved again with new information (the "maker", city, and state).

Here is how I think this goes down....maybe???

If the firearm came with a brace from the manufacture, then the manufacturer is the maker, and it's already stamped with their info. For example, if you buy a SiG Copperhead and it came with a brace from SIG, then SiG is the maker, and the existing manufacturer's data on the receiver meets the requirements. In that case, you don't need to add your name/trust name like you do with a normal Form 1 SBR.

If you bought a pistol and then you added the brace (i.e. you bought a HK SP5 as it came from the factory (as a pistol) with only the pistol endcap and then later you added a brace), you'll have to mark it with your name/trust like a normal Form 1 SBR. Not sure how they would police that, though.

-E-

 

[Local Loader]

More like the time to process anything NFA will completely explode. Kiss even one year completions goodbye, we'll be lucky to get them in half a decade.

Or is that the goal of this new rule?

 

[nehalemguy]

Here's a question that might have already been answered but, does this apply to pistol calibers as well? i.e. 9mm, 38, 357, 40, 10mm and 45.

Yes.

-E-

 

[Ginocide]

Or is that the goal of this new rule?

Wouldn't surprise me. If you can't ban something, slow it down with all the red tape you can.

 

[CZP07]

So I filed like normal but I have not received a cover letter or any verification by email

yah. i filed to and no email from them yet

 

[wired]

yah. i filed to and no email from them yet

As a note to everyone out there filing for the first time you ALWAYS get a email cover letter within minutes.

 

[Rkangel]

I find this interesting on page 10 re: Factoring Criteria:

(4) whether the surface area that allows the weapon to be fired from the shoulder is created by a buffer tube, receiver extension, or any other accessory, component, or other rearward attachment that is necessary for the cycle of operations;

In other words, so many people probably said they would just take the brace off that the ATF just said "everything" gets SBR'd. A pistol is a pistol and an AR is an AR not a pistol.

I've said it before, the AFT will never be clear or direct. They will always leave themselves enough ambiguity to change the rules mid stream. From the beginning, they never clarified the surface area part of the rule...and now we see why.

 

[Member 34319]

Oh yeah. I submitted and it cleared but now it's showing as a draft and I cant bring it up. It's gonna get bad,.

This should be interesting to say the least. I'm waiting for the clearly fake submissions to pop up on Reddit. It would be fun to send a picture of a brace duct taped to a Glock pistol.