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Pharmacist fights back Shoots robber from behind counter

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by OLDNEWBIE, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    I'll bet that one guy's ears are still ringing!
     
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  2. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    This is a very good training video, especially for reading a situation and sizing it up. The perp take advantage of the busy operation to get in and make his interview. I get the surgical mask when coming in, that is fairly common. However, the hood and sun glasses are a bit much, and the pharmacist should have immediately questioned that, and been prepared to immediately take action, since that is going to be a go or no go momentfor the perp.

    He may have decided to go for his piece and probably would have won the draw. The pharmacist used a good tactic in blocking the perps view, as the perp moved to his right, while drawing and setting up to fire.

    All in all , I think he made some good tactical decisions.
     
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  3. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    He needed more stopping power... The perp gets shot and gets back up? He's lucky he didn't get shot too. Hopefully the perp bled out after he left the store:mad::mad:
     
  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Can't figure out why scumbag never got off a shot. 1st time he was stunned by being shot but then he got up and pointed again but no shot? was he saving ammo until he could get a clearer shot?
    Most thugs would have blasted away in the general direction a full mag as they were fleeing.

    Perhaps the thug had only a couple of rounds and needed them to count????
    Maybe the Pharmacist was just a faster shot????
     
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  5. pdrake

    pdrake WA Active Member

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    I agree on the hearing damage part. Ouch!
     
  6. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    He did. The pharmacist joked to his staff "Maybe he is here to rob us" The perp knew he was made and had a chance to reconsider. Stupid is as stupid does.
     
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  7. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Excellent video illustrating The Process of Natural Selection!

    :s0155:
     
  8. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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  9. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    " Radcliff was one of those employees, but was armed with a pistol and a conceal carry permit. He drew his .45 caliber pistol and shot Gillenwater three times. "

    Cannot get much more stopping power than a .45 in a handgun.

    "After one shot struck Gillenwater’s shoulder, the assailant continued to point his gun. A second shot hit Gillenwater’s gun in the muzzle and disabled it. Gillenwater continued to point and try to shoot, but a third shot put him down."

    Good job of the pharmacist being trained, and pulling the trigger fast and until the threat was eliminated.
     
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  10. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The more I look at this video the more I think about what I would have done. The minute he walked in the door like that I would have ordered him to lose the hood and sunglasses, and at the same time probably drawn my weapon until his hands cleared his jacket NOT holding a gun. These things happen so fast though...
     
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  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    It's human nature (for decent folk anyway) to give the benefit of the doubt in "pucker factor" situations, just out of politness if nothing else.
     
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  12. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Agreed it is human nature....but you can train yourself to overcome it. Working loss prevention and security, people lie to me every day. I watch them all the time. I am not going out to lunch with these people, I do not care if they like me. I do not care if they choose to not come back to the store. I care about the security of myself, other customers and the staff.

    I was placed in a situation in the last year that I had to get between a convicted murderer about to commit another capital crime and the safety and well being of myself , my spouse and 4 strangers. I had to draw my weapon to low ready. I had already made my decisions about what I was going to do, and how I was going to do it, it was up to the scumbag what happened next. This was clearly non verbal communication between the scumbag and me, but he clearly understood what I was going to do,and I had the tactical advantage.

    Everyone should work on situation command and command presence and understanding the actions associated with it. Criminals and people with bad intent will still try to keep interviewing you even when challenged. Total situation control has to be made for the situation to be safe and secure.
     
  13. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    "After one shot struck Gillenwater’s shoulder, the assailant continued to point his gun. A second shot hit Gillenwater’s gun in the muzzle and disabled it. Gillenwater continued to point and try to shoot, but a third shot put him down."
    And now you know..........the rest of the story., as Paul Harvey used to say.
    That wouldn't have been P.C. though.

    Damned good shooting!
     
  14. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Oh, I never said that I was decent folk. ;)
     
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  15. 44mag2ndamend

    44mag2ndamend Round the ole tree stump, Down by the crick Well-Known Member

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    I wonder not.