People are still shooting through ammo shortage

[Xmark1]

I am thoroughly embarrassed I did not stock up more. I was planning to stockpile before the election then the coof took me by suprise.

Those saying they have enough to last 2-6 years. How many thousands of rounds do you go through a year?

The last 4 years I shot probably 20k rounds total. No way I could have all that stored. I mean I could fit it, but I couldn't spend 6k on "extra" ammo when already spending a 2-3k a year on ammo.

Are you guys popping off 100-200 rounds once a month and calling that it?

It depends. When practicing with 22LR, I might go through about 500 per session. But I can have a very fun Day with about 30 rounds of thirty cal. I will hang steel anywhere from 200 to 1300 yards, and it takes some time to do all the math for them long shots. I treat it like a Zen sort of thing.

 

[oremike]

I still shoot what I want, when I want. Granted right now it's less than I'd like. But there is no ammo shortage for me. I've been rolling my own for 40 years in fact most of my guns have never had any other than my ammo in them. I have grabbed a gun and ammo can of a caliber I don't shoot much only to find the ammo can is light, So I grab a different gun and ammo can with a note to self to refill the first can at the earliest chance I get.

 

[BigDog67]

I am thoroughly embarrassed I did not stock up more. I was planning to stockpile before the election then the coof took me by suprise.

Those saying they have enough to last 2-6 years. How many thousands of rounds do you go through a year?

The last 4 years I shot probably 20k rounds total. No way I could have all that stored. I mean I could fit it, but I couldn't spend 6k on "extra" ammo when already spending a 2-3k a year on ammo.

Are you guys popping off 100-200 rounds once a month and calling that it?

I shoot bolt action rifles. 1-200 rounds is a heavy month. I don't go through 1k a year. 5k is over 400 per month. I don't choose to go through that, and I will be happily shooting as long as this lasts.

 

[Xmark1]

$1000 for 9mm that should cost $139 is not a supply.

Well if it should cost $139, but in reality cost's $1000. Then there is a rift in the force and the universe is out of balance.

 

[wired]

Well if it should cost $139, but in reality cost's $1000. Then there is a rift in the force and the universe is out of balance.

You just noticed that? I have a few thousand rounds of 9mm that I paid $139 a thousand for a year ago this month. Not even good stuff. Same ammo right now is north of $1000 a thousand. Yeah. the Protest/Covid/Democrat/insurrection unreasonable panic is pretty much rifting the universe.

Funny thing is most guns and gun parts. magazines etc are still available at reasonable prices. This panic its just ammo and unlike previous panics the sellers have doubled down on just jacking prices to retain inventory.

 

[Frank RW]

"Some people aren't catching the clue that there isn't any ammo. "

Depends on how prepared they were. Bought plenty before folks started hording.

We're creating our own shortage. Panic-buyers galore. These threads, although fun to participate, ain't helping.


Any of ya know me, ya know I'm gonna say, there ARE other things just as fun to shoot.

 

[Xmark1]

" Some people aren't catching the clue that there isn't any ammo. "

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Ammo? I thought it was called unobtainium.

 

[Frank RW]

Ammo? I thought it was called unobtainium.

sorry fat-fingered my reply. edited.

 

[nwslopoke]

I went to the local outdoor range at the local state park a few days ago. I was there 3 hours or so Shot maybe 500 rounds of my 15K or so. Sighting in stuff and working through issues with some of my problem kids. No one there.

You are playing by South Cakkalacky rules. Not the same as PNW.

 

[wired]

You are playing by South Cakkalacky rules. Not the same as PNW.

Big difference between Eastern and Western Washington/Oregon. Western ranges are always crowded. Eastern WA/OR HUGE SWATHS of public land where if you go to regulated ranges you be a dumb@ss. In the southeastern US it pretty much sucks for shooting. Very little public land and the private ranges are fully regulated and very crowded. I went shooting a few days ago. NO ONE there. I have never seen that before.

 

[Member 52301]

"Some people aren't catching the clue that there isn't any ammo. "

Depends on how prepared they were. Bought plenty before folks started hording.

We're creating our own shortage. Panic-buyers galore. These threads, although fun to participate, ain't helping.


Any of ya know me, ya know I'm gonna say, there ARE other things just as fun to shoot.

Hello,

$6.97 for 6,000 rounds of DAISY bbs that work in a DAISY 1938 REPLICA RED RYDER!

On sale @ Walmart. I had my husband pick up a second container on his way home from the gym.

We have stock on hand as I stated earlier in THIS thread. The one that we are on now!

@ Post 11 and a few others.

People are still shooting through ammo shortage | Northwest Firearms - Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming Gun Owners

A person can still shoot a BB gun and enjoy it. If they don't like BB guns - life is FULL OF OTHER THINGS TO DO including hiking, walking, dancing, swimming, reading, etc.

SIDE NOTES and not directed to you, personally.

Then there are people like me who have knives and actually KNOW how to use them properly.

Some people should start thinking about knives, axes and 'hawks too. They do not need to be FED! That is IF they are into such things.

I am not talking about my husband's supply of gun related stuff when I talk about MY stuff. He does have knives and has used them since he was a kid too. Just like when he learned how to shoot as a kid and when he went hunting as a kid too.
He uses his knives or one of them on a daily basis too. He carries his pocket knife on a DAILY basis and he has a tool kit on his leather belt too. He carried a tool kit while working at a desk and/or traveling at a high stress 24/7 job too.

There is a HUGE difference between being prepared and 'hoarding' too.

People can prepare and have stock on hand AND they still shoot.

People who hoard usually do NOT shoot EVER if at all! And that goes for when stock was OUT there to buy easily at fair prices AND not just when there were or are fake/real shortages.

If a person just SITS ON SOME THING no matter what IT IS and never USES it or rotates IT especially with food - what is the POINT of having such a thing whether it is ammunition, reloading stock, nice towels, good sheets, comfortable furniture, pretty dishes, good shoes/boots, etc.?!

I am not saying that people should be careless and NOT plan ahead for weather or man made emergencies but some things in LIFE are not worth going crazy about or getting ANGRY about.

I have my opinions about the fake/real shortages NOW as I have in the past. I am not reposting it all now.

We never went without during PAST shortages. We planned ahead. We shared. We gave gifts away. We sold some items from a to z too.

My late husband and I did not go without even before I bought MY own guns. He kept spare ammunition on hand in his only 2 firearm calibers as EXTRA ammo. He had a few rifles and handguns in 22lr and 357Magnum. He had 38Special ammo on hand too.

Was it TONS OF STOCK? NO. But it was enough for us to have on hand and we were not planning on WW3!

Life is too short as it is to be ANGRY at other gun people who actually DO SUPPORT the RKBA and support ONE ANOTHER when it comes to gun related issues.

I hope that the Newbies who just got into shooting due to their age - old enough to buy, their location, coming home from overseas or another state - military or job, having a Come to Jesus moment, etc. CAN FIND what they need or want to buy.

If some old timers can help someone else out... cool. That goes for younger people helping other people out too.

PRICES IN ALL STORES if you can FIND ANY ITEM (LOL!) are going UP be it Walmart or any other store.

That IS a fact of life and some stores have ZERO shotgun shells and ZERO RF for sale too.

I personally believe that IF a person does not plan on using some item, does not like something anymore, wants to TRY something new or different OR if they can't physically use an item... why not sell it? BUY something that you can use or get into some other THING in your life.

I DO believe that LIFE was much simpler when people just planned ahead when their personal time, work schedule and budget let them buy things slow but sure on a REGULAR or fairly regular basis.

Save up, buy what you like or want or need. NO debt.

When you do NOT need or want something any longer or can't use IT - pass it on to someone who WILL APPRECIATE IT and THEY WILL USE IT.

Cate

 

[Catfishmoon]

I am thoroughly embarrassed I did not stock up more. I was planning to stockpile before the election then the coof took me by suprise.

Those saying they have enough to last 2-6 years. How many thousands of rounds do you go through a year?

The last 4 years I shot probably 20k rounds total. No way I could have all that stored. I mean I could fit it, but I couldn't spend 6k on "extra" ammo when already spending a 2-3k a year on ammo.

Are you guys popping off 100-200 rounds once a month and calling that it?

For myself, the answer to your question is reloading (I shoot about the same amount as you)... Less than a year ago I began stockpiling some small pistol primers from Sportsman's Warehouse purchased for $26 per 1000 on sale. 9mm bullets and powder were also inexpensive at that point, while factory bulk ammunition was becoming difficult to find on the shelves...

I actually started reloading because I kept going to the same Sportsman's Warehouse in a small town, springtime 2020, looking for ammo and they were always out of stock. An older employee behind the gun counter suggested I start reloading, I gave it some thought and decided he was correct. I immediately started stockpiling primers, because even at that time it was obvious they were the "weakest link in the chain".
I would have to sit down and do the math to know the exact cost, but the bottom line is I reload 9mm very cheaply and I am well stocked. A few added bonuses are that I enjoy reloading as a hobby unto itself and after experimenting with various "recipes", I shoot more accurately with my handloads than my store bought ammunition.

Taking a different approach, I have friends who went through the ammo drought during Obama's presidency and couldn't shoot. When it became cheap and plentiful during the last four years, they bought and bought ammo even while raising a large family on a middle-class salary... The "I will not make that mistake again" mindset.

I do imagine that many/most of the people bemoaning the current ammo shortage will fail to stockpile during the next "ammo feast" as well... It's like people who get used to months of sunny days and cannot envision that months of rain or winter could occur.

 

[wired]

For myself, the answer to your question is reloading (I shoot about the same amount as you)... Less than a year ago I began stockpiling some small pistol primers from Sportsman's Warehouse purchased for $26 per 1000 on sale. 9mm bullets and powder were also inexpensive at that point, while factory bulk ammunition was becoming difficult to find on the shelves...

I actually started reloading because I kept going to the same Sportsman's Warehouse in a small town, springtime 2020, looking for ammo and they were always out of stock. An older employee behind the gun counter suggested I start reloading, I gave it some thought and decided he was correct. I immediately started stockpiling primers, because even at that time it was obvious they were the "weakest link in the chain".
I would have to sit down and do the math to know the exact cost, but the bottom line is I reload 9mm very cheaply and I am well stocked. A few added bonuses are that I enjoy reloading as a hobby unto itself and after experimenting with various "recipes", I shoot more accurately with my handloads than my store bought ammunition.

Taking a different approach, I have friends who went through the ammo drought during Obama's presidency and couldn't shoot. When it became cheap and plentiful during the last four years, they bought and bought ammo even while raising a large family on a middle-class salary... The "I will not make that mistake again" mindset.

I do imagine that many/most of the people bemoaning the current ammo shortage will fail to stockpile during the next "ammo feast" as well... It's like people who get used to months of sunny days and cannot envision that months of rain or winter could occur.

This isnt like the Obama drought. Stockpiling reloading supplies when times are good is no different that stockpiling finished ammo. Right now is not the time to look into reloading as a alternative. No powder, no primers, you cant even buy progressive presses.

 

[Boboclown]

Some people aren't catching the clue that there isn't any ammo.

There's ammo. Just not cheap, and not in stores.

 

[Geardo]

For myself, the answer to your question is reloading (I shoot about the same amount as you)... Less than a year ago I began stockpiling some small pistol primers from Sportsman's Warehouse purchased for $26 per 1000 on sale. 9mm bullets and powder were also inexpensive at that point, while factory bulk ammunition was becoming difficult to find on the shelves...

I actually started reloading because I kept going to the same Sportsman's Warehouse in a small town, springtime 2020, looking for ammo and they were always out of stock. An older employee behind the gun counter suggested I start reloading, I gave it some thought and decided he was correct. I immediately started stockpiling primers, because even at that time it was obvious they were the "weakest link in the chain".
I would have to sit down and do the math to know the exact cost, but the bottom line is I reload 9mm very cheaply and I am well stocked. A few added bonuses are that I enjoy reloading as a hobby unto itself and after experimenting with various "recipes", I shoot more accurately with my handloads than my store bought ammunition.

Taking a different approach, I have friends who went through the ammo drought during Obama's presidency and couldn't shoot. When it became cheap and plentiful during the last four years, they bought and bought ammo even while raising a large family on a middle-class salary... The "I will not make that mistake again" mindset.

I do imagine that many/most of the people bemoaning the current ammo shortage will fail to stockpile during the next "ammo feast" as well... It's like people who get used to months of sunny days and cannot envision that months of rain or winter could occur.

Yeah. Lesson learned. I got all the guns I want. If the shortage ever abates I am building furniture out of full ammo cans. Lol.

 

[Helocat]

This isnt like the Obama drought. Stockpiling reloading supplies when times are good is no different that stockpiling finished ammo. Right now is not the time to look into reloading as a alternative. No powder, no primers, you cant even buy progressive presses.

Stockpiling reloading supplies is a little different than stockpiling finished ammo. I can store tens of thousands of primers and still easily move them around in a fraction of the space and effort loaded ammo takes. The Obama years also thought me that #1 deep on primers, #2 deep on powder that is as universal as possible and #3 projectiles are good to have on hand, but you will still be able to get them. Since projectiles as 1/3 of the required component but it reps 50-70% of the cost of a loaded round, $5k of reloading stocks is far far more than $5k of loaded ammo. Also way more universal as you built what you need*.

I see why guys are poring into reloading right now. Even with finding primers at $200 per box and 1lb of powder at $60 they can make a finished load for about half what a loaded round is going for right now.


*Example. I traded for a Desert Eagle in 50AE 6 months ago since no one would buy it since no ammo available for it. BUT brass and projectiles was available used on line and I had plenty of LPP and universal powder. I built what I needed, but never actually planned for.

 

[Badger Jack]

Some people aren't catching the clue that there isn't any ammo...
... I've been lucky enough more or less to replace what I've been shooting. How many of you are still shooting?

Many of us have no problem with ammo, simply because we learned 30 years ago to buy when the price is low[er] and demand is low[er], either before, or right after the insanity panic mode.
I spend every spare dollar when it IS available and there is less demand.

What I cannot figure out is why there are so many tens of thousands of people who have not figured this out, with the knowledge of Clinton, NObama, and too many Liberal Socialist Nazi governors trying to ban everything in sight.

And no we have Clinton Jr. and Ms Psychobabble in the White House, doing the same thing, so, why is it you did not see this coming?
To rephrase the old saying, 'Those who do not learn from history are bound to cry about it later.'

 

[Badger Jack]

Stockpiling reloading supplies is a little different than stockpiling finished ammo. I can store tens of thousands of primers and still easily move them around in a fraction of the space and effort loaded ammo takes. The Obama years also thought me that #1 deep on primers, #2 deep on powder that is as universal as possible and #3 projectiles are good to have on hand, but you will still be able to get them. Since projectiles as 1/3 of the required component but it reps 50-70% of the cost of a loaded round, $5k of reloading stocks is far far more than $5k of loaded ammo. Also way more universal as you built what you need*.

I see why guys are poring into reloading right now. Even with finding primers at $200 per box and 1lb of powder at $60 they can make a finished load for about half what a loaded round is going for right now.


*Example. I traded for a Desert Eagle in 50AE 6 months ago since no one would buy it since no ammo available for it. BUT brass and projectiles was available used on line and I had plenty of LPP and universal powder. I built what I needed, but never actually planned for.

Do not forget that you can CAST your own projectiles! Go to your local tire shops and garages, and ask them for wheel weights. They usually have to pay to get the recycler to pick it up, so they will give it away IF you go get it.
Just make sure to separate the Lead from Zinc wheel weights, and take the zinc weights to the guys who buy scap from you, it is a win-win-win situation!

 

[BigDog67]

Many of us have no problem with ammo, simply because we learned 30 years ago to buy when the price is low[er] and demand is low[er], either before, or right after the insanity panic mode.
I spend every spare dollar when it IS available and there is less demand.

What I cannot figure out is why there are so many tens of thousands of people who have not figured this out, with the knowledge of Clinton, NObama, and too many Liberal Socialist Nazi governors trying to ban everything in sight.

And no we have Clinton Jr. and Ms Psychobabble in the White House, doing the same thing, so, why is it you did not see this coming?
To rephrase the old saying, 'Those who do not learn from history are bound to cry about it later.'

 

[Lesliet]

Went to the range yesterday, and it was surprisingly uncrowded. It's been generally pretty packed most weekends up til now.... wasn't even raining!
Felt the need to practice a little, since there's an ICORE match next Saturday, but still only shot 120 rounds. Skills have definitely eroded a bit, was having a hard time getting hits at 25 yards with my weak hand unsupported. Still, we do what we can, and the crunch won't last forever.
Time to cast up more bullets!