Oregon Oregon measure 114

Hismeds · Nov 9, 2022

ilikegunspdx said:
Ditto. This is $ extremely well spent imo (assuming this group is effective, I don't know anything about them yet).

The FPC is pretty solid. Obviously do your own research but I'm very comfortable giving to them

RobMa · Nov 9, 2022

titsonritz said:
Rosie O'Donnell?

BAJ475 · Nov 9, 2022

3MTA3 said:
I will be giving generous support to anybody who will fight this on our behalf.

That may not be necessary. Duncan v Bonta challenged CA's 10+ rnd. magazine ban which was declared unconstitutional in the District (Trial) court. A 3 judge panel affirmed the district court ruling. Then an en banc panel reversed the 3 judge panel and Duncan filed for review in the US Supreme Court. That court granted review, vacated the en banc panel's ruling and remanded for reconsideration in light of NYSRPA v Bruen. The case is now back before the original district court judge. The only question is whether another en banc panel will try and figure out a way around NYSRPA v Bruen.

robertsjm711 · Nov 9, 2022

Does 114 say anything about how many magazines someone can carry?

Stomper · Nov 9, 2022

BAJ475 said:
Strict scrutiny is not the standard after NYSRPA v Bruen. It's THT (Text, history and tradition at the time the 2A was ratified) The 10rnd limit is likely to fall when Duncan is decided

Uhhh…. THT is the very description of Constitutional strict scrutiny. Yeah?

arakboss · Nov 9, 2022

robertsjm711 said:
Does 114 say anything about how many magazines someone can carry?

Nope. Figure you will need to double or triple your mag count to have same round count.

ilikegunspdx · Nov 9, 2022

BAJ475 said:
That may not be necessary. Duncan v Bonta challenged CA's 10+ rnd. magazine ban which was declared unconstitutional in the District (Trial) court. A 3 judge panel affirmed the district court ruling. Then an en banc panel reversed the 3 judge panel and Duncan filed for review in the US Supreme Court. That court granted review, vacated the en banc panel's ruling and remanded for reconsideration in light of NYSRPA v Bruen. The case is now back before the original district court judge. The only question is whether another en banc panel will try and figure out a way around NYSRPA v Bruen.

That only applies to the mag portion.

Plus most say that CA will appeal to the 9th (again) and 9th will keep delaying this out and out. I don't pretend to know how it will play out. Perhaps another freedom week followed by a couple years of delays until they have to finally cave in? 9th and CA do not want this to happen and will try to stop it. I don't know how long they can effectively delay it though.

Stomper · Nov 9, 2022

titsonritz said:
Rosie O'Donnell?

She can't possible sing because she constantly has a cookie or turkey leg in her mouth at all times.

ilikegunspdx · Nov 9, 2022

robertsjm711 said:
Does 114 say anything about how many magazines someone can carry?

"Hello officer, I'm definitely complying by having less than 10 magazines on my weapon."

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Wickedwicker · Nov 9, 2022

I admit, this election has been heavily demoralizing. I'm young, but I'm not sure if I really want to have to spend the next decade fighting for my rights in a state that I don't have many ties to. I know it's not ideal for state rights but this place has been going down the drain for literally my entire life and it seems it's only going to continue to worsen, between rising cost of living and taxes, loss of job opportunities and increasing crime rates I think that moving east might be the ticket. In many other states my income would be respectable but here i dont even make enough to afford an apartment by myself. Wyoming looks quite nice this time of year, you know.

SHPD_Retired · Nov 9, 2022

Buster1969 said:
If it passes, ignore it. Million ways to skin a cat. And it's unconstitutional as hell.

This is a very simplistic way to answer a question. You may be able to ignore some aspects of the law, like carrying magazines over 10 rounds, I refuse to call them high capacity, but how are you going to ignore the part where no gun store is going to sell you a firearm because you do not have the proper license. They are not going to go against the law and risk being prosecuted and put out of business, although this is what will probable happen to them. Hopefully some organization like Firearms Policy Coalition has already drawn up the paperwork to challenge this law.

Wickedwicker · Nov 9, 2022

SHPD_Retired said:
This is a very simplistic way to answer a question. You may be able to ignore some aspects of the law, like carrying magazines over 10 rounds, I refuse to call them high capacity, but how are you going to ignore the part where no gun store is going to sell you a firearm because you do not have the proper license. They are not going to go against the law and risk being prosecuted and put out of business, although this is what will probable happen to them. Hopefully some organization like Firearms Policy Coalition has already drawn up the paperwork to challenge this law.

If this law is enforced most gunstores smaller than a cabelas will be put out of business anyways.

SHPD_Retired · Nov 9, 2022

Wickedwicker said:
I admit, this election has been heavily demoralizing. I'm young, but I'm not sure if I really want to have to spend the next decade fighting for my rights in a state that I don't have many ties to. I know it's not ideal for state rights but this place has been going down the drain for literally my entire life and it seems it's only going to continue to worsen, between rising cost of living and taxes, loss of job opportunities and increasing crime rates I think that moving east might be the ticket. In many other states my income would be respectable but here i dont even make enough to afford an apartment by myself. Wyoming looks quite nice this time of year, you know.

I agree with everything you have stated above except that Wyoming looks quite nice this time of year. It is colder that all get out during the winter.

3MTA3 · Nov 9, 2022

BAJ475 said:
That may not be necessary. Duncan v Bonta challenged CA's 10+ rnd. magazine ban which was declared unconstitutional in the District (Trial) court. A 3 judge panel affirmed the district court ruling. Then an en banc panel reversed the 3 judge panel and Duncan filed for review in the US Supreme Court. That court granted review, vacated the en banc panel's ruling and remanded for reconsideration in light of NYSRPA v Bruen. The case is now back before the original district court judge. The only question is whether another en banc panel will try and figure out a way around NYSRPA v Bruen.

Where Oregon is concerned it still needs to be pushed and it won't push itself. Remember, this law is an Initiative and sot something steamrolled into place by politicians or done by Executive Order. If it passes it is "the will of the people" and will stand unless it's found unconstitutional.

Of great import is that other states are watching and many will follow suit based upon it's passing.

Wickedwicker · Nov 9, 2022

SHPD_Retired said:
I agree with everything you have stated above except that Wyoming looks quite nice this time of year. It is colder that all get out during the winter.

I'm lucky I like the cold then.

lcb97269 · Nov 9, 2022

thebigbaby said:
According to early polls, we lost. If that's the case now what?

DizzyJ · Nov 9, 2022

The Heretic said:
I doubt there will be any enforcement of mag capacity laws.

That's what everyone said about private person to person transfers too. Yet try to get any law abiding citizen to sell you a gun without going through an FFL.