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Just posted this to write that I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO eff'n tired of the whole "SHTF" crap. Good grief, stop with the SHTF acronym already. You should know that if the Chicoms invade, an asteroid strikes, an EMP or solar flair fries all microprocessors, or Yellowstone erupts, we are all fooked, some sooner than others. Hit the road? Roads are crammed with accidents and shootouts. Head for the woods? Folks already there will take you off sooner or later. Eastern Washington or Oregon? They don't want us. Stay home? Minimal exposure but same end result. Crap on me if you will, but you know I'm right. There now, I feel better. Back to reading about the Somme offensive of 1915.....