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Is this along with the trial in September ?
You might be thinking about the timeline for implementation of HB2005, the ghost gun bill. Right now, the serialization requirement for Personally Made Firearms (PMFs) goes into effect Sept. 1. The definitions for unfinished frames and receivers is now on hold on the federal level. That means, for now, unfinished, normally referred to and 80% ers, are legal to own without a serial number.
 
In this thread Yarome on March 4th posted :

other news.... From our attorney... as of last night:

"[the appeal]....officially scheduled for September 18-22. There is a lot of work to be done between then and now.
The best news to come out of today [03/03/2024] is that the Defendants do not want a Preliminary Injunction hearing on the Permit to Purchase aspect of Measure 114. This means that ALL of Measure 114 will remain blocked until at least the conclusion of our trial"

So is this the appeal that is now set for August ?
 
In this thread Yarome on March 4th posted :

other news.... From our attorney... as of last night:

"[the appeal]....officially scheduled for September 18-22. There is a lot of work to be done between then and now.
The best news to come out of today [03/03/2024] is that the Defendants do not want a Preliminary Injunction hearing on the Permit to Purchase aspect of Measure 114. This means that ALL of Measure 114 will remain blocked until at least the conclusion of our trial"

So is this the appeal that is now set for August ?
I should have said that was when the paperwork had to be in for the court to review. Mid September was Tony's estimate a few weeks ago if it was expedited. It ended up being expedited, so that what the best estimate is for the oral arguments.
 
Is this along with the trial in September ?
In addition to. One is for the State appeals case and the other is the feeb court case.

ETA: The "August thing" might be getting mixed up between the cases as to what it means for each. The expedited schedule in the state case allows each side filing deadlines of 46 days(?) 49(?) [I forgets] each, and then an additional 21 days for follow up and such.

IOW, the state has 46(49) days to file their petition, we then have 46(49) days to file a response and then an additional 21 days is scheduled for follow up motions and so on. That puts the end filing schedule deadline in August, but the hearing is already scheduled in Sept. Even if the state accelerates the filing schedule that isn't likely to change unless it's convenient for the court to find another 5 consecutive days in their schedules for the hearing.

*The filings could be accelerated if, say, the State files before their petition deadline... which would then start the clock on the response filing deadline, etc.
 
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You don't? Can't put the puzzle pieces together, huh? Gee, maybe it was the Right making up baseless, ridiculous conspiracies about the vaxx and COVID, and antagonizing anyone who got the vaxx and calling the doctors and nurses who supported it "shills". It also expands to calling anyone who isn't in lock-step with Trump or that obnoxious broad MTG as a RINO or a "never-Trumper".

Who the hell would want to be attached to that? They didn't go "hard Left", the Right on that issue went far-Right. VERY far-Right.

Everytime someone notable croaks over today, the first thing I hear someone on a gun forum say is "duurrr were they vaxxed? duuurrrrr!" or "duurrr what info did they have on Hillary? duuurrr". They're driving away "traditional, conservative, god-fearing" people all on their own.

And don't forget to ask those traditional, conservative, god-fearing people what they think of somebody who cheated on his wife with an ugly whore and now sells $60 propaganda Bibles to raise campaign funds. I don't think you'll get a nice response there either.

It baffles me that some on the Right can't see that the Right has done this to themselves. I'm no Leftist (and no, not vaxxed either), but I very much enjoy watching the Right eat its own just as much as I enjoy the Left doing it. All while they stand around with the :s0092: trying to figure out where it all went wrong, lmao. If only the Right eating its own didn't have far more dire consequences in regards to the future of this country. I miss politics being Moderate, with sane voters who could think for themselves instead of bandwagoning onto bumper sticker slogans and conspiracy theories.
You assume I was talking about the vaxx.

An entire population was locked down and left to their own vices and devices for months... There was no reality check. Around the same time people had been told it was ok to riot and burn down cities and police stations. They got praised for terrorizing an entire country, then got their egos stroked via social media for months while on lockdown. Narcissism and socialism exploded. Idle hands became the devil's playground. The country still hasn't recovered from the lazy workforce, muddled minds, pathetic education, and degradation of society that was caused by the pandemic. The social experiment known as quarantines screwed with our minds. I have seen first hand my own family members who were once smart, logical, reasonable, hard working and humble people turn into lazy slobs or raving lunatics. They are not the same people they were before the pandemic. You can infer what you want about the cause.
 
You assume I was talking about the vaxx.

An entire population was locked down and left to their own vices and devices for months... There was no reality check. Around the same time people had been told it was ok to riot and burn down cities and police stations. They got praised for terrorizing an entire country, then got their egos stroked via social media for months while on lockdown. Narcissism and socialism exploded. Idle hands became the devil's playground. The country still hasn't recovered from the lazy workforce, muddled minds, pathetic education, and degradation of society that was caused by the pandemic. The social experiment known as quarantines screwed with our minds. I have seen first hand my own family members who were once smart, logical, reasonable, hard working and humble people turn into lazy slobs or raving lunatics. They are not the same people they were before the pandemic. You can infer what you want about the cause.
^^^^^THIS^^^^^
ALL TRUE,, EVERY SINGLE WORD OF IT!
 
Wow!! This is such a foreign concept to me. I can name 50 or 60 living relatives and there isn't a one of them that I wouldn't speak to given the opportunity. I'm not close with lots of them and haven't talked with some of them for many, many years, but there isn't a one that I deliberately avoid.
For me and my family I don't know how to describe it but I'll try. It's not that we don't get along it''s more that we don''t have anything in common. I've lived a large and active life with many good and bad adventures. I'm the oldest, my parents and their generation and above are all gone. But politics, sports, guns, activities we just don't share interests in. Here is an example, my brothers wife wanted their son to spend a summer with me to man him up a bit(her words). We talked of camping, fishing, rock hunting and the like. I also mentioned there would be some exorcise getting in next seasons firewood. The kid backed out when I asked for an in case he gets hurt I can take him to a hospital paper. He was afraid I would hurt him and I would never do that but bumps and bruises do happen when you live a more rugged/ active life. Now days he's in his 30's and still lives at home with Mommy and Daddy. Me I'm getting a internal defibrillator and when healed up will start shooting Sporting Clays. So you see nothing in common. My cousins live in AZ and are life long State dept of Education Democrats, again nothing in common. Vacation for them is a yearly trip to Disney Land. Mine is 9 days riding a motorcycle around the Oregon Outback.
 
I know it's been asked by others a couple times, but it never hurts to ask again, right(?)

Could we please move these pages of "my family life" discussions to maybe an off topic thread and leave this one for M114? A few intermittent off topic posts are par for the course, but this one is running multiple pages long and not even firearm related.

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I know it's been asked by others a couple times, but it never hurts to ask again, right(?)

Could we please move these pages of "my family life" discussions to maybe an off topic thread and leave this one for M114? A few intermittent off topic posts are par for the course, but this one is running multiple pages long and not even firearm related.

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Yea but there hasn't been much progress re M114 status, other than the updates, right? All the relevant questions and answers were done in the first 150 pages, and other than updates on M114, people don't seem to want this thread to go away?
 
I know it's been asked by others a couple times, but it never hurts to ask again, right(?)

Could we please move these pages of "my family life" discussions to maybe an off topic thread and leave this one for M114? A few intermittent off topic posts are par for the course, but this one is running multiple pages long and not even firearm related.

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Yea but there hasn't been much progress re M114 status, other than the updates, right? All the relevant questions and answers were done in the first 150 pages, and other than updates on M114, people don't seem to want this thread to go away?
I get it, but someone wanting to stop in and check for the latest update... how are they to find that info buried somewhere within the last several pages of "family times" discussions?

Likely get frustrated and just post a "what's the latest on 114?"... which we end up repeating info that was recently posted, but buried multiple pages back. ;)

Funny story. Just yesterday I was reposting the latest I am aware of but couldn't remember if it was 46 days or 49 the court gave the parties involved. I knew I posted it not too long ago and went to look back to confirm how many days it was... but after scrolling around page after page after page about the date I had posted that info... I couldn't find my own post and gave up.:s0140:

I can't speak for others that are also keeping up on the legal proceedings, but if I hear anything new and this thread has gone "cold", I'll certainly revive it to post it. ;)
 

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