Other State lawful shoot but illegal gun

[Yarome]

I dunno for a fact, but I would imagine the "illegal" revolver used was likely the grounds for the search warrant... which is what really jammed him up.

If true then it really shows that if you're going to carry "constitutionally" by your own devices then at least make sure "that one" is legal in the eyes of your commie peers. Know and minimize your risk... or at least... like in the case if OR ends up enacting the mag ban... that your potential risk is limited to an acceptable misdemeanor slap on the wrist.

Was it worth it? Well... he didn't end up bleeding out on a NY street at 2am, so... there's that.

If it was indeed just a simple mugging would I have done the same? Likely not. Knowing my carry was technically illegal and my life was not actually under imminent threat... my watch and the $20 bill I keep in my wallet are replaceable. That said. My frame of reference doesn't view a knife or other hand held implement as an "imminent threat". The guy in question might have... or rather obviously... did.

It would be nice if one of the big 2A dogs steps in to help challenge the constitutionality of the charges, but for an isolated case like that I have doubts they would. He's probably on his own but do hope he tries to fight it.

 

[Member 53328]

I dunno for a fact, but I would imagine the "illegal" revolver used was likely the grounds for the search warrant... which is what really jammed him up.

If true then it really shows that if you're going to carry "constitutionally" by your own devices then at least make sure "that one" is legal in the eyes of your commie peers. Know and minimize your risk... or at least... like in the case if OR ends up enacting the mag ban... that your potential risk is limited to an acceptable misdemeanor slap on the wrist.

Was it worth it? Well... he didn't end up bleeding out on a NY street at 2am, so... there's that.

If it was indeed just a simple mugging would I have done the same? Likely not. Knowing my carry was technically illegal and my life was not actually under imminent threat... my watch and the $20 bill I keep in my wallet are replaceable. That said. My frame of reference doesn't view a knife or other hand held implement as an "imminent threat". The guy in question might have... or rather obviously... did.

It would be nice if one of the big 2A dogs steps in to help challenge the constitutionality of the charges, but for an isolated case like that I have doubts they would. He's probably on his own but do hope he tries to fight it.

Yea, if we get a mag ban in Oregon I'd end up with a few misdemeanors. If those offenses were upgraded to felonies I may change up my load out. It all comes down to risk management. I can deal with a misdemeanor, a felony changes things for me personally.

Just gotta know that if you are forced to use deadly force your life and belongs will have a high probability of being gone through with a fine tooth comb. Act Accordingly.

 

[Yarome]

Yea, if we get a mag ban in Oregon I'd end up with a few misdemeanors. If those charges were upgraded to felonies I may change up my load out. It all comes down to risk management. I can deal with a misdemeanor, a felony changes things for me personally.

Just gotta know that if you are forced to use deadly force your life and belongs will have a high probability of being gone through with a fine tooth comb. Act Accordingly.

Agreed. And at least for a time the, "Mag ban? What mag ban? I bought it like that! Are you telling me the gun shop sold me an illegal firearm??" defense may play to some sympathy on the charge.

Let them try and prove knowledge and intent to extract the max penalty... perjury charge aside, right...

 

[sobo]

Real shovels? Or guns that identify as shovels? A shovel is shovel.

"No, I can't define a shovel... Not in this context. I'm not a ditch-digger. "

 

[Member 53328]

"No, I can't define a shovel... Not in this context. I'm not a ditch-digger. "

How about a grave-digger?

 

[Yarome]

How about a grave-digger?

What's that? As opposed to a slack-digger... a ditch-digger that's very serious about his job??







Edit: Ohhh.... My bad.
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[sobo]

How about a grave-digger?

Not that either, but I can lay some pipe...

 

[Camelfilter]

Edit I'm a dumb guy. The deceased was the one with more than 12 prior arrests while the shooter has the clean background. whoops

Edited because I didnt read close enough

Nope, my bad!

I had edited in the bracketed portion (my comment to clarify) to the sentence I quoted from the article. Because left as I quoted seems like the innocent defender had prior the arrests.

You must have read my post before I noticed it needs clarification & I circled back to ad in my comment.

 

[eustace_stelio]

The criminal didn't have a "weapon" it was just a pen...

A pen in the neck is pretty effective

 

[eustace_stelio]

I get it and ultimately agree.
I think the guy could have made better life choices though. He had to know he can buy a revolver in NY and get a CHL by now.

The better choice would've been gtfo of new york.

 

[eustace_stelio]

I dunno for a fact, but I would imagine the "illegal" revolver used was likely the grounds for the search warrant... which is what really jammed him up.

Somehow I doubt New York leo are serving search warrants on the countless street thugs they're arresting with illegal guns to which the DA is just instantly releasing back on the streets. Ie like this guy.

 

[sobo]

The criminal didn't have a "weapon" it was just a pen...

A pen in the neck is pretty effective
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