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I just figure those are rare occurences. I don't know anyone who's murdered another human being, I don't even really know friends of friends who have murdered people, it's actually usually through hearsay and a very very loose affiliation that I might have with some killer or violent felon. I went off the statistical probability that most mentally ill people aren't violent anyways and he probably would fit that category, firearm or not.
The news does make a huge story out of the mentally ill that are violent towards people and criminally insane, the man I would not say is criminally insane though (Actually the way I worded the OP, it sounded like he planned on carrying out a robbery which was not the case, albeit it was still a deluded idea to think he would carry a gun in hopes of confronting a store robber) , and you don't hear about the hundreds of thousands of mentally ill who never shoot anyone even if they do have access to a firearm just because that doesn't make news and the media glorifies body counts in shootings. Most people who are mentally ill, just off themselves anyways if they abuse their firearm as opposed to a murder-suicide or mass shooting.
These things have a way of sorting themselves out in the end anyways.
The 2nd amendment allows people, who are not fit for the military, or the police, to acquire firearms, including the mentally ill. We can argue that it's an abuse of what the 2nd amendment was intended for, actually it probably is not what it was meant for, but I didn't know he would all of a sudden become obsessed with his gun that he treats like its a toy or an extension of power since now has an object that is effective at ending lives.
I use my gun for entertainment, plinking beer cans and target practice. To be honest, for the most part my gun is a safe queen, the thought of using it to end another human beings life never crosses my mind even if the possibility is there. Thought thats what he would use his for as well. Just because I can stow away a gun in my glove compartment and ride around with it under Missouri law, I don't do it simply because I figure its a low probability I'd ever find myself in a situation where I required a gun unless I was purposefully going out of my way, looking for trouble.
As opposed to coming down hard on me which has been done plenty in this thread, the cat is out of the bag ok, what constructive criticism can anyone offer, to improve the situation?
If you ever saw that movie 300, I would classify him as that guy with the hunchback in the film, completely unfit to serve in a military or police unit and protect other human beings, while his intentions are good.
Also he's been on a heavy use of prescription medications ever since I met him which was 7 years ago. He didn't just become diagnosed with depression yesterday where he would be at the highest risk, and he's pretty punctual on taking his meds.
But yes, with me being the 27 year old and him the 34 year old, I am definitely the more mature one between us both. I have no background with dealing with mentally ill people, the media definitely teaches us to fear them though.
The only people who would have any say in keeping him away from guns would be someone much closer to him, like his mom, or perhaps his psychiatrist if he told him/her in a session that he intended on carrying out a murder.
edit: Actually one of my internet friends served in an infantry unit for the Canadian Army over in Afghanistan, high probability he killed at least one human being, he's definitely seen some close friends get killed as he struggled through PTSD for several years even after he was discharged, and serves as a paramedic/firefighter for his job. That guy tells me some MESSED up stories, but he's at least got a good head on his shoulders.
The news does make a huge story out of the mentally ill that are violent towards people and criminally insane, the man I would not say is criminally insane though (Actually the way I worded the OP, it sounded like he planned on carrying out a robbery which was not the case, albeit it was still a deluded idea to think he would carry a gun in hopes of confronting a store robber) , and you don't hear about the hundreds of thousands of mentally ill who never shoot anyone even if they do have access to a firearm just because that doesn't make news and the media glorifies body counts in shootings. Most people who are mentally ill, just off themselves anyways if they abuse their firearm as opposed to a murder-suicide or mass shooting.
These things have a way of sorting themselves out in the end anyways.
The 2nd amendment allows people, who are not fit for the military, or the police, to acquire firearms, including the mentally ill. We can argue that it's an abuse of what the 2nd amendment was intended for, actually it probably is not what it was meant for, but I didn't know he would all of a sudden become obsessed with his gun that he treats like its a toy or an extension of power since now has an object that is effective at ending lives.
I use my gun for entertainment, plinking beer cans and target practice. To be honest, for the most part my gun is a safe queen, the thought of using it to end another human beings life never crosses my mind even if the possibility is there. Thought thats what he would use his for as well. Just because I can stow away a gun in my glove compartment and ride around with it under Missouri law, I don't do it simply because I figure its a low probability I'd ever find myself in a situation where I required a gun unless I was purposefully going out of my way, looking for trouble.
As opposed to coming down hard on me which has been done plenty in this thread, the cat is out of the bag ok, what constructive criticism can anyone offer, to improve the situation?
If you ever saw that movie 300, I would classify him as that guy with the hunchback in the film, completely unfit to serve in a military or police unit and protect other human beings, while his intentions are good.
Also he's been on a heavy use of prescription medications ever since I met him which was 7 years ago. He didn't just become diagnosed with depression yesterday where he would be at the highest risk, and he's pretty punctual on taking his meds.
But yes, with me being the 27 year old and him the 34 year old, I am definitely the more mature one between us both. I have no background with dealing with mentally ill people, the media definitely teaches us to fear them though.
The only people who would have any say in keeping him away from guns would be someone much closer to him, like his mom, or perhaps his psychiatrist if he told him/her in a session that he intended on carrying out a murder.
edit: Actually one of my internet friends served in an infantry unit for the Canadian Army over in Afghanistan, high probability he killed at least one human being, he's definitely seen some close friends get killed as he struggled through PTSD for several years even after he was discharged, and serves as a paramedic/firefighter for his job. That guy tells me some MESSED up stories, but he's at least got a good head on his shoulders.
