How is a weapon with a Integral suppressor registered?

I've looked into the ak-47's with an integral suppressor and it is just the gun itself that has the stamp.

If you run it shorter then the 16", then a second stamp for the SBR would apply, is my understanding.

 

Personally I think it's better to buy a suppressor you can move to other guns but I can see having a gun built suppressed. Guns built suppressed use the serial number of the gun to register it.

 

The law full route would be to get a FFL gunsmith lic to keep you from going to jail. It would make you legally able to possess NFA items to work on them. You could play all you want but could not sell your toys once you make them. If you want to profit from your adventure the FFL manufacturers lic will allow you to build and sell.

 

Don't take what I say as law but once you own it you can modified it to any legal shape you want. Just keep the paperwork as legal possession. I would not separate the two away from the paperwork.

 

It would open a lot of doors for you to have fun. You can take delivery of guns direct to your house but it requires strict paper work should you be inspected. You can legally build most anything in guns you could want but it can never be transfered if it's NFA.

 

As a gunsmith there is a lot of latitude and the big boys feel in control. If you want to upgrade later then there are many directions to go. Just make sure you follow the law or you will lose your money, freedom and your rights. Lic takes all the worry out of building things.

 

My first ClassIII was an anphibian 22. A ruger Mk II with an integral or "married" suppressor. It was cool but I soon realized the shortcomings. Unless you are made of money (I am not) and can afford several cans, it is far more effective to have one can you can move around between guns.

I have a 30 cal can that is made for 308 but works just fine on .556 or 22LR. All the way up to 300 magnum.

 

Smart thinking, only problem I have had is some of the gun barrels are not threaded from the factory right so I end up paying to have it done right.

 

Contact Mark at TROS. I'm certain he will answer the question.
http://trosusa.com/

 

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...pters/m4-muzzle-thread-adapter-prod54364.aspx
This will adapt a 30 cal can to an AR-15. I have one.

 

Isn't a class-III SOT license something like $5k a year, and if you ever stop renewing it (for whatever reason) you have to either transfer your inventory to another qualified class-III SOT holder or surrender it?

 

Wow, information all over the place on this one.

The original question. If you have an integral it would depend on how the gun is built to answer that question. In the case of an AR-15 your lower is still a firearm, and your integral "barrel" would be an NFA item with its own serial number. Same would be true for any gun where the NFA portion is able to be removed from the receiver. There are some like the Ruger Mk pistols that the upper is the "firearm" you might be able to use the same serial number for both.

Yes you can LEGALLY build NFA items for your own use by filling out a Form 1 and having it come back approved. With that said you submit your specs for the unit on the Form 1 and those can not change. Also having any "extra" silencer parts around is considered illegal.

To be a gunsmith requires an FFL, https://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html

If you want to work on/build NFA stuff you need to have an SOT, https://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-firearms.html

 

As usual, Nwcid is spot on with his post.

Once you have a couple of .22lr cans, then you'll want an integral suppressed gun. I'd prefer a bolt gun as that would be the most quiet.

Just a word of warning, stamp collecting is addictive. I'm up to 6 stamps and really only planned on getting 1 or 2 at the most.

 

$500 a year for your MFG part (02 ) SOT
$130 every 3 years for the Regular MFG ( 07 )
$2250 a year for the Obama bubblegum ITAR tax

When you give up your SOT you can keep anything that isn't Full-Auto.

 

I think you can keep Pre-May samples, but not post samples.