Washington Have any Oregon members here sold an AR Lower to a WA resident since I-1639 laws took effect?

[arakboss]

Can Oregon resident sell AR lower with standard Oregon transfer process at Oregon FFL?

Could Oregon resident bring lower to WA FFL and have it transferred like pre I-1639 times?

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[Stomper]

Question 1 = No (transfer from an OR resident to a Wa resident).

Question 2 = Currently yes, BUT it may take several days or even weeks before the Washington buyer can take possession because of the time it's taking LEO agencies to complete a UBC.

 

[AMT]

As far as I know I can cross the river and buy any long arm in OR, just like before. The process may be a little different now because of I-1639, but there are no laws against me buy one.

So #1 should be yes, selling to WA resident through an OR FFL.

 

[arakboss]

Are WA FFLs still selling lowers up in WA and do they require the invasive background checks introduced with I-1639?

 

[AMT]

There are a couple places that sell the lower (a complete lower), and the paperwork is marked "other" so it can be taken out of the store immediately.

THEN that lower comes with a specific upper of the stores choice for free "with the purchase of a lower from them".

Most of the stripped lowers that I've seen for sale are $100+ (for some stupid reason). I don't know if they actually sell any, but I see them for sale.

 

[arakboss]

There are a couple places that sell the lower (a complete lower), and the paperwork is marked "other" so it can be taken out of the store immediately.

THEN that lower comes with a specific upper of the stores choice for free "with the purchase of a lower from them".

Most of the stripped lowers that I've seen for sale are $100+ (for some stupid reason). I don't know if they actually sell any, but I see them for sale.

My understanding was that AR lower sales were not subject to extended background, training, etc requirements of I-1639? Maybe @Sporting Systems can clarify this?

 

[AMT]

I'm not sure about that "training BS" requirement that we now have to go through, but the sale of just the lower is an immediate sale as it is not a rifle or pistol. This is what I am hearing and seeing.

 

[AMT]

Your initial post does state AR lower. I skimmed that part and just assumed it was a complete AR sale/question.

The "training" can be done by buyer for free on Sporting Systems website (THANK YOU Sporting Systems!!!).

WA buyer prints certification and brings it with them when purchasing the lower. Should be quick, easy and immediate.

 

[User 1234]

Lowers are not rifles and lowers alone are not semi automatic.

 

[Stomper]

FYI- You cannot buy a firearm receiver through an FFL outside of your state of residence like you can a complete long gun, the transfer has to go through an FFL in the buyer's state of residence.

 

[GunSmoke]

Are WA FFLs still selling lowers up in WA and do they require the invasive background checks introduced with I-1639?

Lowers and any non semi auto long gun are just a standard nics check still, until this July. Then they'll be as long a wait as everything else

 

[arakboss]

Lowers and any non semi auto long gun are just a standard nics check still, until this July. Then they'll be as long a wait as everything else

This July, what is changing this July?

 

[GunSmoke]

This July, what is changing this July?

Starting this July, nothing in Wa will be a NICS check. Everything will be our new enhanced background check done by the local LE of wherever your address is. Currently lower receivers, pump guns, bolt action, and lever guns are still same day delivery. That all stops this July

 

[User 1234]

Starting this July, nothing in Wa will be a NICS check. Everything will be our new enhanced background check done by the local LE of wherever your address is. Currently lower receivers, pump guns, bolt action, and lever guns are still same day delivery. That all stops this July

Have a cite for that?

 

[GunSmoke]

Just the guy who sells me my guns

 

[arakboss]

The only thing I could find related to July 2020 was this:
No later than July 1, 2020, I-1639 requires DOL to develop a process to verify on an annual basis that persons who acquired pistols or SARs remain eligible to possess a firearm under state and federal law.

Source: http://leg.wa.gov/Senate/Committees/LAW/Documents/2019 Washington Firearms Final.pdf

 

[arakboss]

Just the guy who sells me my guns

No offense but it would be helpful if you could provide a web link explaining what changes are going to take place.

 

[GunSmoke]

No offense but it would be helpful if you could provide a web link explaining what changes are going to take place.

None taken. I personally have not done research. Having a discussion at my local gun shop the guys said the fbi is only doing the nics checks on the items I previously mentioned until july 2020. I took that info assuming they'd be the ones to know.

 

[User 1234]

LGS rumors are often not accurate. My understanding is that except for pistols and SAARs the instant NICS check will continue. SportingSystems might know the latest on the state's effort to build a process to transfer "others."

 

[arakboss]

LGS rumors are often not accurate. My understanding is that except for pistols and SAARs the instant NICS check will continue. SportingSystems might know the latest on the state's effort to build a process to transfer "others."

@Sporting Systems can you provide some info on this topic?