felon shot 5 times with 5.56 to stop him

[rjmt]

I found this interesting, even after being shot twice at point blank range, the felon still managed to turn and aim his weapon at the officer
as they stated in the video, this is a prime example of the need for a 12 ga shotgun

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[Longwalkhome]

Police long ago got rid of their shotguns in patrol vehicles and went to the AR 15 because it was a better tool for them.

 

[rjmt]

Police long ago got rid of their shotguns in patrol vehicles and went to the AR 15 because it was a better tool for them.

fortunately I don't have to deal with aggressive armed felons or even mentally ill homeless in my lifestyle location
all our intruders are 4 legged

but I showed this video to my wife and when she saw the felon aim his gun at the dog, she just shouted "HE MUST DIE"

 

[tac]

One though the eye would have stopped him for sure.

Any eye.

 

[Longwalkhome]

fortunately I don't have to deal with aggressive armed felons or even mentally ill homeless in my lifestyle location
all our intruders are 4 legged

but I showed this video to my wife and when she saw the felon aim his gun at the dog, she just shouted "HE MUST DIE"

If the cops shot him 5 times with OO buck then there would have been a minimum of 45 holes to answer for. Under today's liberal government it would have been a court trial for the cops.

I love my dog too, he is family.

 

[Member 53328]

Or place your shots. T box and pelvic girdle. 5.56 does the job.

 

[rjmt]

Or place your shots. T box and pelvic girdle. 5.56 does the job.

also bullet choice
I wouldn't use 62 gn Green Tip in this situation
I have some Winchester PDX that I'm told will work in this situation

 

[Member 53328]

also bullet choice
I wouldn't use 62 gn Green Tip in this situation
I have some Winchester PDX that I'm told will work in this situation

Unfortunately with LE a lot of times you're required to carry what the department issues. Whether it's firearms or ammunition. In any case placement is key.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Patrol carbines have a bayonet lug?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Speaking only for myself....

In my combat experience I have seen men , who have been shot continue to fight , even if their wounds "should have" killed them or at least stopped them.
Other men I have seen , have stopped fighting with what is called as being "lightly wounded" .

Bullets often do weird things when they hit flesh or even fail to perform as advertised

In any event , It pays to never underestimate the will to live in your opponent.
Andy

 

[rjmt]

Patrol carbines have a bayonet lug?

Asking for a friend.

here's the only use of a bayonet I know of

 

[Member 18201]

Once more.

Read this......or don't.

https://webzoom.freewebs.com/balisticaterminal/Physiological_effects_handgun_bullets_Newgard.pdf

Or, ride as an assistant on a meat wagon for a week. The damage that a human can survive is not describable.

 

[Member 66129]

Once more.

Read this......or don't.

https://webzoom.freewebs.com/balisticaterminal/Physiological_effects_handgun_bullets_Newgard.pdf

Or, ride as an assistant on a meat wagon for a week. The damage that a human can survive is not describable.

bUlLEt teCHnOlOgY hAs IMProvEd

 

[Cerberus Group]

I didn't watch the whole video, but not enough info as to where the rounds impacted, type of rounds used, angles etc.

Other than Hollywood, unless the rounds are head shots...or as I say, in the snot locker, there won't be instant shutdown or death...and yes even with a 12ga.

 

[Spaz]

I'd be interested in knowing what type of 5.56 round it was...because 55 or 62g FMJ isn't creating sufficient wound channels compared to 77 or 90g SMK on tissue.

And no, this doesn't call for a shotgun. Better rounds and better shot placement will suite a greater variety of situations than a shotgun.

 

[rjmt]

I'd be interested in knowing what type of 5.56 round it was...because 55 or 62g FMJ isn't creating sufficient wound channels compared to 77 or 90g SMK on tissue.

And no, this doesn't call for a shotgun. Better rounds and better shot placement will suite a greater variety of situations than a shotgun.

I have a case of 77 gn SMK Mk262 and they feed out of an AR magazine with no problems
back when I shot competition, we had to single load the heavier bullets due to overall length in handloads

 

[jayR]

not an approved video source but

Man With A Machete Chases Cop Around As Cop Fires Several Round At Him Via Shotgun To No Avail, Man With A Coconut Finally Takes Machete Man Down

One of the wilder videos out of Brazil, and most are, this one featuring a man armed with a machete chasing a cop around with a shotgun. The cop fires several rounds at the wildman but none seem to slow him down. Some say there are non-lethal rounds in the shotgun, perhaps salt or rubber...

vidmax.com

 

[Spaz]

I have a case of 77 gn SMK Mk262 and they feed out of an AR magazine with no problems
back when I shot competition, we had to single load the heavier bullets due to overall length in handloads

That's what my mags are loaded with, I've also experimented with 90g loads out of a 11.5 inch as well. 77g Mk262 is a stout load with disproportionate caliber to wound channels, there is no better documented load for 5.56 self defense loads against unarmored flesh.

 

[Nosferatu]

Patrol carbines have a bayonet lug?

Asking for a friend.

Milsurp hand-me-downs

I'd be curious what ammo the department issues. If I were a betting man, it's probably also milsurp.

Gold dots would likely have performed better in this situation, but it's convenient having a post-event POV.

 

[Val1884]

My local dept issues Nosler ballistic tips...Waiting for the first law suit to start over hunting bullets being used.